Its been a while....now about this pneumatic 2200?

[Gamocfx]

Hi Chaps,

I have been popping in here regularly to have a quick read but work and a house move has prevented further involvement or even time to look at any guns. Until now!

Digging around I have pulled out possibly the least desirable gun of all time? A Crosman 2200 "Magnum" with plastic stock. My version has what looks like a silencer but who knows what it is. My question is as this rifle has never filled with air what do I replace? Can the offending part be bought as a whole and easily fitted? This model is stamped Fairport NY and looks sturdier than other Crosmans that I have seen.

Also in relation to the above has anyone got a cheap wood stock version of this rifle? I used to have one and deeply regret parting with it. As a teenager this was on my wish list (well the Whalley version) but I must have had more energy then as all that pumping seems too tiring now.

Whilst on the subject of undesirable guns does anyone ever plink with a Daisy pump up? I have an advert for a double barrel Daisy BB gun from the 60s....I have never seen one-anyone out there have one?

Well its good to be back and fiddling about with guns, even one as bargain basement as this one. Be interesting to hear if it is repairable.

Thanks in advance.

[Phil Russell]

Ah ... the 2200. That brings back memories. I thought I had put a strip guide in 'Idiots Guide' sticky on here but maybe not. I do have notes on the strip / rebuild though if they would help. Maybe I should add them to Idiots.
From memory I think an issue can be the valve unit if you are unlucky to have a dodgy one. I tried to get one but could only get it via an RFD here. In the end I went to Crosman in USA, or maybe it was a US dealer, and got one delivered to me. But take care as I think various valve units were used in USA, Canada and maybe another place and in the event, I got the wrong one. My problem was, however, the blow off valve and I managed to mend it.
My repaired rifle was not bad but not as good as I hoped. But nevertheless I had fun.
Regarding a Daisy pump up. My daughter has an 880, among the first rifles she used ( under supervision of course) and went on to compete in the UKAHFT with it one year. She did remarkably well, beating several pcp shooters along the way. Output was, if I remember correctly, about 7ftlb but it may have been a little higher.
Cheers, Phil

[Gamocfx]

Hi Phil, your notes would be very helpful though I may bite the bullet and ask a local dealer to fix it if they can. I am amazed that your daughter used the Daisy in competition....that is so cool! There should be a class for pump ups on their own, I remember mine as being fairly accurate but that was back in the late 70s.

Crosmans look like a nightmare to work on even GGGR winces when I mention them to him

[Phil Russell]

OK ... my notes now added to Idiots Guide as post 181. Not sure why I did not add them before, maybe I thought the rifle was too new. If so, apologies to Guy for 'corrupting' the intention of Idiots. Having reread my notes on the 2200 I note that on my rifle a few parts had been fitted incorrectly by a previous owner which explained, in the main, why it did not work properly ... it was an auction buy.
My daughter had tremendous fun with her Daisy 880. She did not gain a top place in the UKAHFT but I recall she was not last in the class either. She even got herself a fleece with DAISY on the back ... but her arms never recovered .... and maybe the continual clack-clack-clack put other shooters off!
Personally I have used a Crosman 760 for close range (up to 10 yards) rat elimination with great success. Recently, however, I have used an AA S400 as it was quicker to bring into 'battery'.
Cheers, Phil

[Inspector 71]

Is the silencer unfinished with holes drilled axially?

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2200 is fairly easy to reseal your areas that could be at fault for not building air up are
1 pump cup
2 valve o rings (bs111 tube seal and bs012 inner case seal)
3 stem seal (the early ones are obsolete but a 2100 stem can be used and I often fit 1377 ones usually without shortening the stem and find it still dumps all the air even though it will reduce hammer stroke)
4 blow of valve under valve
if the gun pumps but does not build anymore pressure up after the first then it's the check valve easy to check as the pump arm will open it's self if the pump arm is opened so it's not cammed over
if your after a wooden stock the model 1 first model is a 2200 in all but name and had wood furniture and you can get a wooden stock and pump arm from a chap on the GTA forum
you haven't missed anything with a whaley as they're very badly made and based on a poor model I made an ally and stainless probe for mine as the plastic ones where easily ,I also tuned it to be fully pumped per shot rather than the air conserving design