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    Stock making

    Christmas is on its way, I have 2 weeks off work. I think I will manage to retreat away from the chaos that my wife, two almost teenage girls and a 3 week old baby girl will inevitably create to my man cave.
    Once inside, I'm going to have another go at a stock. I have made one or two in the past from solid timber.
    I came across some rather nice 18mm birch faced ply today at work that looks perfect for the job.

    Is everybody still of the opinion that a good quality waterproof PVA is best for gluing the 18mm planks together to form the basis of my blank? I know that there are stronger glues available but I am concerned about glue lines, flexibility etc.

    Any advise gladly accepted.

    Thanks.

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    I used polyurethane glue when I made up my blank ? Good luck
    them there springer's are soooooo addictive

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    Used both Polymite / Cascamite and water activated Gorilla glue and they both work very well. Gorilla glue is more readily available and expands to fill any gaps , so does need clamping up well or it’ll push the joints apart.

    Shaun

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    Hi

    I made the plywood (HW80) stock of these using two pieces of 1" Birch ply (Scrap wood from our patternshop), I glued them together using PVA glue (Also from our patternshop!) and put a load of G clamps on to hold them together, I used a gouge that was intended for turning wood in a lathe to cut the inletting, Got it finished then sold it for some reaon!!





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    Try to arrange the mated sides 90° to each other for a seamless job
    them there springer's are soooooo addictive

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXMAN View Post
    Used both Polymite / Cascamite and water activated Gorilla glue and they both work very well. Gorilla glue is more readily available and expands to fill any gaps , so does need clamping up well or it’ll push the joints apart.

    Shaun
    The former wont leave a yellow glue line

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    I used PVA for this stock for my Scorpion made out of birch ply.
    https://imgur.com/a/J5Zxu

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    Quote Originally Posted by joffy View Post
    Try to arrange the mated sides 90° to each other for a seamless job
    Apologies for thicko response but I don't get this and it sounds crucial.
    Dim but willing. Jules

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejayuu View Post
    Apologies for thicko response but I don't get this and it sounds crucial.
    Dim but willing. Jules

    If you have the grain of ply running the same direction (The parts that are glued together) you'll get a 'twice as thick' ply running down the centre, He means make sure the two mating plys to be glued run 90° to each other, Mine both ran in the same direction!!


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    Thanks John. Crucial then as I suspected. Jules
    P.S. Lots of waste for one offs then. J

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    Just finished cramping together using gorilla glue - jeez, it's messy.

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    Might be messy but it's the best there is for this job.
    Basically the same glue used to make engineered timber frames used in large buildings.

    chap near me built a DIY wind turbine a few years back. the blades are carved from a laminate of old school desks stuck together with gorilla glue. seamless build, looks great up close and has been outside for years without a single joint failing.

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    There have been a couple of comparison tests on the net and the strongest wood glue turned out to be Titebond 3. I dislike Polyurethane glue as it’s very messy but does have its uses, particularly gap filling on poor joints. Another wood glue reckoned to be very good is Cascamite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post
    There have been a couple of comparison tests on the net and the strongest wood glue turned out to be Titebond 3. I dislike Polyurethane glue as it’s very messy but does have its uses, particularly gap filling on poor joints. Another wood glue reckoned to be very good is Cascamite.
    When a long time ago I intended to build a wooden support table for my ML7 Cascamite was the glue recommended.

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    Not sure these days but Cascamite used to be used for laminating bow limbs.
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