Reloading advise for 58g v-max in 243

[Elliott]

Dave, 87gr V-Max are what you want to be developing a load for. The 243 is very flat with most bullets, especially for foxing ranges but the 87gr V-Max top trumps them all as far as BC and efficiency goes!

[tacfoley]

PLEASE don't mix up g [gram] with gr [grain]. It might blow your gun up.

tac

[Ranyhyn]

PLEASE don't mix up g [gram] with gr [grain]. It might blow your gun up.

tac

100%!
And if you can fit 35 grams of powder in to a .243 case it will bring a whole new meaning to the term 'compressed load'

[optima silk]

Dave, 87gr V-Max are what you want to be developing a load for. The 243 is very flat with most bullets, especially for foxing ranges but the 87gr V-Max top trumps them all as far as BC and efficiency goes!

This one Dave would be more suitable for you
Regards
Colin

[223AI]

Dave, 87gr V-Max are what you want to be developing a load for. The 243 is very flat with most bullets, especially for foxing ranges but the 87gr V-Max top trumps them all as far as BC and efficiency goes!

Not out of .243 win it won't, looking at nosler load data you'll top out at around 3200 fps, with 200 yard zero and 1.5" bore to sightline you are knocking on 6" drop at 300 yards....

Compare that to a 22-250 running 53gr v-max or .243 running 55 gr Nosler varmint at 3900 fps and they are only just over 4.24".

Either of the above will give you a point and shoot load for a 4" kill zone (generous for a small vixen) if zeroed at 250 yards . provided you can read the wind well, in the dark, as an 8 mph wind at 90 degrees reduces the point and shoot range to about 235 yards! After that you aim bang on and you're out of your 4" kill zone, by 300 yards you're drift is over 6" on a bib shot that's a miss.

110 gr v-max out of a .308 at 3350 fps beats them all!

Or Dave if you really want a lazer have a short throated 6.5-284 built and run 100 gr A-max / ELD match at 3450 fps, make friends with the smith though as you'll need a new barrel every 7-800 rds!!

[Elliott]

Not out of .243 win it won't, looking at nosler load data you'll top out at around 3200 fps, with 200 yard zero and 1.5" bore to sightline you are knocking on 6" drop at 300 yards....

Compare that to a 22-250 running 53gr v-max or .243 running 55 gr Nosler varmint at 3900 fps and they are only just over 4.24".

Either of the above will give you a point and shoot load for a 4" kill zone (generous for a small vixen) if zeroed at 250 yards . provided you can read the wind well, in the dark, as an 8 mph wind at 90 degrees reduces the point and shoot range to about 235 yards! After that you aim bang on and you're out of your 4" kill zone, by 300 yards you're drift is over 6" on a bib shot that's a miss.

110 gr v-max out of a .308 at 3350 fps beats them all!

Or Dave if you really want a lazer have a short throated 6.5-284 built and run 100 gr A-max / ELD match at 3450 fps, make friends with the smith though as you'll need a new barrel every 7-800 rds!!

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

[warbucks]

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

[223AI]

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

At least if you have a 'flat' round you only have one variable to think about.....

22-250 will give you the option for heavy bullets if you have a fast twist rifle built, but it won't give you any benefit over a .243 with heavier bullets in a factory rifle.

[loiner1965]

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

pm rick (nightstalker) as i sure he as loads for 22.250 and possibly .243 as well.
Knowing rick as i do they will be super accurate and tested 100%.

[Ranyhyn]

I use Lovex, because that's what my man has a pretty regular supply of, and have managed minute of fart groupings with my .243 using SO60, SO62 and SO71. SO60 with 55 sierras were trundling out at 3820 fps.

[223AI]

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

You lost the bet, 10 mph at right angle the 55 gr NBT drifts 7.94" at 300, 87 v-max 6.69" so only 1.3". It is a fair point though and also the one I was trying to make with the rest of my post!

[Elliott]

You lost the bet, 10 mph at right angle the 55 gr NBT drifts 7.94" at 300, 87 v-max 6.69" so only 1.3". It is a fair point though and also the one I was trying to make with the rest of my post!

Apologies, didn't mean it to come across that way.

That is surprising! I'll now climb back into the hole from once I came

[ZAKDINGEL]

What works for some doesn't for others this is what I load for my .243 a 70grn Blizking bullet with 40grns of ramshot big game powder behind it as we no some guns like different bullets weights the Op might be better waiting until he gets a gun and try it first to make sure it will shoot that weight of bullet I have been down that same route buying boxes of bullets before I had tried them allot of time and powder used good fun but very frustrating at times

[223AI]

Apologies, didn't mean it to come across that way.

That is surprising! I'll now climb back into the hole from once I came

you didn't come across any way buddy!!

Point is they'll all drift and the only way to cut that down and still have an explosive bullet is to run silly fast, 60 gr+ of powder barrel burners, reading wind in daylight is hard enough with all the visual clues, at night its harder - just like ranging!

[Mini Magnum]

Using 43.5gr N140 and 58 vmax , I'm getting 1 hole groups at 100yds, very accurate in my Tikka.