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    Try thesoapkitchen.co.uk You can buy all sorts of weird waxes and oils from them.

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    i dont this type of shooting so i may be posting crap

    i saw this on an iraqveteran8888 video comment

    Fast rifle lube:

    1 pound of carnauba wax
    1 pound of paraffin wax
    1/2 pound of Bees wax
    3 tablespoons of STP oil treatment
    Food coloring if you want
    Add more beeswax if it's too hard for your application.


    or this one

    Bees Knees (black powder cartridge and low velocity hand guns)

    1 pound of paraffin wax
    1 pound of beeswax
    5 tablespoons of Liquid Alox
    5 tablespoons of TC Bore Butter
    Half a jar of Vaseline


    his video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBzw8YO3VYM&t=179s

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    i dont this type of shooting so i may be posting crap

    i saw this on an iraqveteran8888 video comment

    Fast rifle lube:

    1 pound of carnauba wax
    1 pound of paraffin wax
    1/2 pound of Bees wax
    3 tablespoons of STP oil treatment
    Food coloring if you want
    Add more beeswax if it's too hard for your application.


    or this one

    Bees Knees (black powder cartridge and low velocity hand guns)

    1 pound of paraffin wax
    1 pound of beeswax
    5 tablespoons of Liquid Alox
    5 tablespoons of TC Bore Butter
    Half a jar of Vaseline


    his video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBzw8YO3VYM&t=179s
    they standard lubes but do work....rather than use food colouring chuck in some kids was crayons.
    go to castboolits website as they have 1000s of lubes to try out....like bens red

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    Quote Originally Posted by loiner1965 View Post
    they standard lubes but do work....rather than use food colouring chuck in some kids was crayons.
    go to castboolits website as they have 1000s of lubes to try out....like bens red
    He mixes then all in to make his lube

    Unless you meant that with them all in together that it was a standard lube ?

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    i meant they are simple to make lubes like they did in the early days before they introduce other ingredients like dexion stp motor oil.
    They are hundreds of ingredientsan in all many of percentages now, but sometimes the simple lubes can be more effective for the conditions required.

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    Lee Alox

    The constituents of the current Alox seem to be a state secret, but I did find various copies of documents online...the stuff is supplied to Lee by a company called Lubrizol in 55 gallon drums...the markups for a 118ml plastic pot must be in the thousands of %. Current mix is a petroleum based product, possibly an oxidised form of petroleum jelly...vaseline?..do we have an analytical chemist online who can help...

    amc577

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    Lanolin is used in lubricants but usually as a softener for waxes and soaps. To see if it will work on its own just coat half a dozen bullets and give them a try. I suspect that the problem will be that Lanolin wont harden, so bullets will be very messy to handle. You can try hardening it with some bees wax. Let us know how you get on.

    Liquid Alox is a wire drawing lubricant. That is for actually making wire where it is pulled through dies to reduce the diameter. Not to be confused with wire pulling lubricants available from electrical trade suppliers, these are for pulling electric cables through conduit. I've a sneaking suspicion that spray on wax car body under-sealer, like finigan's waxoil, is very similar to LLA. If so then one can will last you a long time.

    The lube I use with pistol bullets is a floor polish, but it is one added to water and mopped on floors. It is normally sold for janitorial suppliers, look for descriptions such as "high wax content". What I use is 20% wax content. 100 mls will do about a thousand .44 bullets so a 5 Lt container will last decades. It gives a hard, clear coating that is good for top loads in .44 mag. and .30 carbine.

    The two bullet lubes I make are;

    For black powder - 50/50 (by volume) Beeswax / vaseline. This is a great lube for Minie bullets and is ok for pistol bullets up to 1800 fps. It is superior to the usual beeswax/tallow mix in that it doesn't dry out and become brittle.

    For rifle bullets - 1/3 Moly grease (from a car accessory shop) and 2/3 soap (I use tesco value hand soap). Ratios by weight. So far the fastest I've driven bullets is to just over 2200 fps but no signs of fouling and accuracy about 1.5" at 100 yds. was consistent over 40 rounds.

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