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    Green and amber

    Red led torches seem to be then favourite choice but has anyone had success using either green or amber for lamping rabbits

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightrider View Post
    Red led torches seem to be then favourite choice but has anyone had success using either green or amber for lamping rabbits
    Of the three you mention red is the best followed by amber. I bought a green LED.tried it once and its sat in the drawer since.

    I reality...your quarry will eventually get spooked by any colour light if you shoot too often. They learn.

    Red is good if its a good red....some do better than others. Amber is very good if your eyes struggle with red. Green and blue....too bright but I would say try it. It might work for you.....

    Either way you will probably end up with Night Vision

    A dimmer is a good idea or 3 output levels as well as spot to flood.

    A T20 is a good idea swappable pills or the newer T38 which also has inter hangeable heads too

    Ludicrous Lumens is where I got my kit from
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steyr View Post
    Of the three you mention red is the best followed by amber. I bought a green LED.tried it once and its sat in the drawer since.

    I reality...your quarry will eventually get spooked by any colour light if you shoot too often. They learn.

    Red is good if its a good red....some do better than others. Amber is very good if your eyes struggle with red. Green and blue....too bright but I would say try it. It might work for you.....

    Either way you will probably end up with Night Vision

    A dimmer is a good idea or 3 output levels as well as spot to flood.

    A T20 is a good idea swappable pills or the newer T38 which also has inter hangeable heads too

    Ludicrous Lumens is where I got my kit from
    The rabbits on my permission have come lamp shy on the red and white led torches which are a t20 red and tiablo a9 white so it looks like I’ll give the green and amber a go.im considering getting an evo 38 along with the green and amber 3 mode drop in pills but I’ve read somewhere that the 38 is the same has the t20,I don’t understand how has surely the numbers are the size of the lenses or is it the size of the head and the t20 and t38 lenses are the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightrider View Post
    The rabbits on my permission have come lamp shy on the red and white led torches which are a t20 red and tiablo a9 white so it looks like I’ll give the green and amber a go.im considering getting an evo 38 along with the green and amber 3 mode drop in pills but I’ve read somewhere that the 38 is the same has the t20,I don’t understand how has surely the numbers are the size of the lenses or is it the size of the head and the t20 and t38 lenses are the same?
    Re: t20 v t38 ir
    Postby Marky610 » 14 Nov 2014, 10:24

    Same lens+same led+same driver=same performance.
    The T20 is a UniqueFire UF-T20. T20 comes from the model of torch

    It was myself that told you they had the same size lense . the T20 name does not mean the lens size. it was the first version of the T series torches. it was the later ones that were named by their lens size

    First version
    T20 38mm lens official model number UniqueFire UF-T20

    Then there is the 2nd version
    T38 38mm lens oficial model number Uniquefire UF-1407
    T50 50mm lens official model number Uniquefire UF-1406
    T67 67 mm lens official model number Uniquefire UF-1405

    From Marky at Nite-tek


    No the '20' was just a model number. We nicknamed the new ones '38' '50' and '67' to match the lens size, the factory model numbers are completely different.


    the new T series that some call the evo are a different torch all together


    The evo range official model number is UniqueFire UF-1508 .it can be a 38mm lens ,50mm lens ,67mm lens or a75mm lens.

    you can buy it from china with all the lens sizes in a kit . https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uniq...ceBeautifyAB=0 £83.63 for the full kit

    All you would have to do is buy the different coloured pills(leds).

    Some sellers have changed the drivers to put out more power and called them Turbo pills.

    You will need a charger and batteries too mind


    The people that sell them here buy them in bulk and have their names put on them and call them whatever they like


    My T20 . Bought from aliexpress https://www.dropbox.com/s/jiy5c8cpcb...41415.jpg?dl=0
    My T50. bought from aliexpress https://www.dropbox.com/s/59frb9htxv...41601.jpg?dl=0
    My T67. my mate bought it from Ludicrous lumens .who had it badged as a uf-T67i think.https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehofigl45d...41432.jpg?dl=0

    As i said above ,if you buy in bulk from the makers you can have what you like printed on them .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Re: t20 v t38 ir
    Postby Marky610 » 14 Nov 2014, 10:24

    Same lens+same led+same driver=same performance.
    The T20 is a UniqueFire UF-T20. T20 comes from the model of torch

    It was myself that told you they had the same size lense . the T20 name does not mean the lens size. it was the first version of the T series torches. it was the later ones that were named by their lens size

    First version
    T20 38mm lens official model number UniqueFire UF-T20

    Then there is the 2nd version
    T38 38mm lens oficial model number Uniquefire UF-1407
    T50 50mm lens official model number Uniquefire UF-1406
    T67 67 mm lens official model number Uniquefire UF-1405

    From Marky at Nite-tek


    No the '20' was just a model number. We nicknamed the new ones '38' '50' and '67' to match the lens size, the factory model numbers are completely different.


    the new T series that some call the evo are a different torch all together


    The evo range official model number is UniqueFire UF-1508 .it can be a 38mm lens ,50mm lens ,67mm lens or a75mm lens.

    you can buy it from china with all the lens sizes in a kit . https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uniq...ceBeautifyAB=0 £83.63 for the full kit

    All you would have to do is buy the different coloured pills(leds).

    Some sellers have changed the drivers to put out more power and called them Turbo pills.

    You will need a charger and batteries too mind


    The people that sell them here buy them in bulk and have their names put on them and call them whatever they like


    My T20 . Bought from aliexpress https://www.dropbox.com/s/jiy5c8cpcb...41415.jpg?dl=0
    My T50. bought from aliexpress https://www.dropbox.com/s/59frb9htxv...41601.jpg?dl=0
    My T67. my mate bought it from Ludicrous lumens .who had it badged as a uf-T67i think.https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehofigl45d...41432.jpg?dl=0

    As i said above ,if you buy in bulk from the makers you can have what you like printed on them .
    Some good information there,I’ve opted to purchase the evo 38 with green and amber pills and a 50mm head

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightrider View Post
    Some good information there,I’ve opted to purchase the evo 38 with green and amber pills and a 50mm head
    never had an Evo but my mate did for his photon. it came from the torch factory.he liked it .

    hope it does what you require from it .

    when i first used my T20 red pill equipped one the rabbits were jumping into the beam area so it made it easeir than scanning for them

    i set mine up with an adjustable mount like this one top right https://www.ant-supplies.uk/scope-si...or-mounts.html


    and on of these rails https://www.ant-supplies.uk/scope-si...ory-rails.html

    the rail stays on the scope and the mount on the torch .

    you can get them cheaper on eblag if your willing to wait for them to come from china.

    i set the beam with it like a diamond shape rather than a square if you get my drift . then set the corner just above the cross hair . Marky610 advised it on the night vision forum and i have set mine up this way ever since .

    paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightrider View Post
    The rabbits on my permission have come lamp shy on the red and white led torches which are a t20 red and tiablo a9 white so it looks like I’ll give the green and amber a go.im considering getting an evo 38 along with the green and amber 3 mode drop in pills but I’ve read somewhere that the 38 is the same has the t20,I don’t understand how has surely the numbers are the size of the lenses or is it the size of the head and the t20 and t38 lenses are the same?
    The T38 is the upgrade of the T20. Better engineered and has an extension tube option to run 2 cells or one cell. The pill has to be selected to run on 1 or 2 cells though but it is easy to switch pills in the field on the T38 and its a pig on the T20.

    Lastly the T34 can swap heads from small to big so you affect beam pattern and throw capability.
    In a battle of wits I refuse to engage with an unarmed person.
    To one shot one kill, you need to seek the S. Kill only comes from Skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightrider View Post

    Some good information there, I’ve opted to purchase the evo 38 with green and amber pills and a 50mm head
    Field test report when you can please, as am interested in this rig myself. Many thanks.
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    Sent you a Pm Gareth
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post

    Sent you a Pm Gareth
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    Thank you Paul. Received, understood, and many MANY thanks for the comprehensive info. Atb: G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Thank you Paul. Received, understood, and many MANY thanks for the comprehensive info. Atb: G.
    Your welcome
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    Rabbits see greens and blues really well. Not so much red but not all reds are alike. Red filters in front of a white light will still let lots of green through for the bunnies to see. Red LEDs differ in how much orangy light they give out. The deeper reds should be harder for bunnies to see.

    660nm+ lasers might be best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Beard View Post
    Rabbits see greens and blues really well. Not so much red but not all reds are alike. Red filters in front of a white light will still let lots of green through for the bunnies to see. Red LEDs differ in how much orangy light they give out. The deeper reds should be harder for bunnies to see.

    660nm+ lasers might be best.
    Clive Ward that sells the night vision stuff s going to try an orange Led . one of the members on the night vision forum advised it if i remember right .

    The Problem with Leds and filters is that the led mostly only puts out the colour that it was designed for . so if you use a white led and a red filter ,It cuts the beam distance dramatically . All to do with the light spectrum that an led puts out .

    I once read a report that one of the guys on a torch forum did but i cant find it now . He did it in relation to a query when some asked about the Ledray torch with filters .

    some info here

    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/25272
    some info here


    I tried with a bright white torch and Quality street coloured wrappers and it did cut the range of my torch.



    colours animals see here https://askabiologist.asu.edu/colors-animals-seesome info here

    MAMMALS (rabbit) BLUE AND GREEN
    MAMMALS (rats) ULTRAVIOLET, BLUE, GREEN
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