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Thread: Webley Disease....Highly contagious

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    In the blued pistol era the Webley was the pistol to beat. Andrew Lawrence studied all the prewar pistols in the development of the Hy-score. He took the most from the Webley. The rearward traveling spring is key to a normal feeling pistol recoil. He used the same with the Hy-score. I love my Haenel 28s because of the look and brilliant machining but as a shooter the Webley is far more accurate and is compact and feels the most like my 22 pistols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    As a recent collector Iím finding Webleys are about the ideal collector piece.
    1. It is a very good design, extremely well made and has stood the test of test.
    2. They are accurate and fun to shoot, not always true in collectable guns
    3. There were many variants to continue collecting interest.
    4. They were widely exported, so everybody is in the game.
    They're also reasonably priced compared to some other's making them great for those that don't have endless pockets, I've seen some lovely pistols for what I would are very reasonable prices, with the quality of engineering on may of the earlier examples I would consider them fantastic value. Admittedly my Walther's are more accurate but they were also twice the price, I love em and I reckon I.J. doth protest too much, secretly he will have a stash of mint examples stashed away that he admires, he's just trying to keep the market for himself
    Morini 162ei, Baikal MP46m, Walther LP53, Drulov DU10 Condor, HW77 Venom, BSA Club Standard, Lots of Webley MK1's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccdjg View Post
    Although I am not an avid collector of vintage Webleys, I do have quite a few in my springer pistol collection and I have had the opportunity to compare them with more than 250 different vintage springer pistols of all shapes and sizes and countries of origin. I can say in my experience that in terms of build quality, reliability, performance and aesthetics they comfortably come within the top 5%, and I can understand why collectors can become addicted to them.

    My first air pistol was a Webley Senior, bought for me by my dear old dad 63 years ago when I was just twelve. It must have had thousands of shots put through it over the years and suffered all the trials and tribulations that a teenager could throw at it. It had new grips fitted at some stage. I remember even experimenting with ether to get it to diesel, and blowing the barrel out of its catch. Around then a new short link was fitted. I didn't take up air pistol collecting until 30 years later and when I eventually dug out the old Senior it was as rusty as hell with no trace of blue, so I decided to give it a make over and use it as a guinea pig in my early experiments with hot bluing.
    The gun now takes pride of place in my collection, and here it is as it now looks (white lettering courtesy of Typex). It shoots fine, and no wobble anywhere. Not bad for a much used and abused 60+ year old pistol. Hardly a bad design. I think it is a clever use of the fact that air does not mind being forced round right angles to make a pistol that is half the size of a conventional in-line design with no significant loss of efficiency. I can think of few other air pistols that would still be in this sort of condition after all that this has been through.


    That Senior looks to be in exceptionally good condition, John, considering what it's been through.
    I started collecting Webley's many years ago for two reasons, the first being that at the time they were of British manufacture, and the second was because I like them.
    I've been sidetracked slightly over the years by BSA Airsporters and Scorpion pistols, Walther LP53, LP2 & LP3 pistols and Weihrauch HW45 & 75, but my main interest has always been Webley.
    I've accumulated quite a lot of literature over the years, and I sometimes find that just as interesting as the products.

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    I refuse to rise to the bait of IJ's amusing trolling.

    Oh, all right then.

    Compared to most of the largely rubbish contemporary pistols when the Johnstone-Fearn Webley came out in 1924 or so, the Webley was streets ahead. It is a poor design in ultimate performance terms, and if I had to shoot a 10M match with a classic springer, it would not be my choice. But it's a surprisingly good shooting proposition despite its design limitations, the older ones are beautifully made and finished, and about four generations of British air gun shooters grew up either owning one or wanting one. So they are just nice.

    My first air pistol was a Webley, but at the same time I wanted a 3-litre Ford Capri when I grew up. I now know for sure that a 3-litre Capri was actually a bit of a crap car. But I still want one.

    This whole vintage/classic thing has to accept the role of nostalgia. I mean, I have nostaligic feelings for the Mk1 Airsporter, although it came out twenty years before I was born.

    I guess this is why some people collect Gats. Weirdos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nige346 View Post
    I reckon I.J. doth protest too much, secretly he will have a stash of mint examples stashed away that he admires, he's just trying to keep the market for himself
    Bang to rights! Im just waiting for the price of scrap steel to rise.



    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    I refuse to rise to the bait of IJ's amusing trolling.

    Oh, all right then.
    Good effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Bang to rights! Im just waiting for the price of scrap steel to rise.





    Good effort.
    Wow almost 20,000 posts how can he be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    Wow almost 20,000 posts how can he be wrong?
    According to the mother-in-law (may she rest in peace - soon) I am most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

    I guess this is why some people collect Gats. Weirdos.
    Gat collectors I can understand. They are happy if the pellet shoots out. 'Wobbly' owners arent happy until they have the 5 pin, Canadian patent, tin grip variant.
    The one good thing about Wobbly collectors is that they leave the good stuff un bought for other collectors.

    Im off now to Cellotape bread crumbs to my window sill to drive the pigeons wild
    Last edited by I. J.; 13-01-2018 at 06:10 PM. Reason: My sense of humour isn't everyones taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Gat collectors I can understand. They are happy if the pellet shoots out. 'Wobbly' owners arent happy until they have the 5 pin, Canadian patent, tin grip variant.
    The one good thing about Wobbly collectors is that they leave the good stuff un bought for other collectors.

    Im off now to Cellotape bread crumbs to my window sill to drive the pigeons wild and smear dog muck on braille signs.
    And the good stuff prewar is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    And the good stuff prewar is?
    I rarely deal with guns that were around at the official opening of Stonehenge.

    although I do admit to owning a 1914 BSA underlever which I have used on a few occasions to enter national rounds of HFT.

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    Drawing pins

    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    And the good stuff prewar is?
    Dog muck on drawing pins on door handles! Right up yr street I reckon IJ!😉
    ok, I admit it, I've got a problem.
    http://www.rivington-riflemen.eu/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1shot1kill View Post
    Dog muck on drawing pins on door handles! Right up yr street I reckon IJ!😉
    .... and Braille signs.

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    So a MK1 Premier started it, purchased on a whim 2 weeks ago, Today I came across a nice MK1, All original, good grips and shooting lovely in .177....It would have been rude not to

    Whats considered the Target model?, I can find little that shows this as a different pistol and when I try to look up MK1 Target it comes up with the MK1 as I got today, I've also gained a couple of nice pellet tins with the pistols, one a Webley and the other a Lanes along with an oil bottle so I'm thinking the correct thing to do is get a couple of boxes, I have some Burgundy Baize and some nice period brass clasps and hinges so fitted cases it is....This is a whole new hobby
    Morini 162ei, Baikal MP46m, Walther LP53, Drulov DU10 Condor, HW77 Venom, BSA Club Standard, Lots of Webley MK1's

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    Quote Originally Posted by nige346 View Post
    So a MK1 Premier started it, purchased on a whim 2 weeks ago, Today I came across a nice MK1, All original, good grips and shooting lovely in .177....It would have been rude not to

    Whats considered the Target model?, I can find little that shows this as a different pistol and when I try to look up MK1 Target it comes up with the MK1 as I got today, I've also gained a couple of nice pellet tins with the pistols, one a Webley and the other a Lanes along with an oil bottle so I'm thinking the correct thing to do is get a couple of boxes, I have some Burgundy Baize and some nice period brass clasps and hinges so fitted cases it is....This is a whole new hobby
    You need to search under Webley Mk2 Target to find out more about what was
    essentially a deluxe version of the Straight Grip Mk1.

    Lots out there.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    You need to search under Webley Mk2 Target to find out more about what was
    essentially a deluxe version of the Straight Grip Mk1.

    Lots out there.

    Brian
    Thanks
    Morini 162ei, Baikal MP46m, Walther LP53, Drulov DU10 Condor, HW77 Venom, BSA Club Standard, Lots of Webley MK1's

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