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    Most popular Springer in HFT/FT

    what is the most popular springer in HFT/FT and why ?
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    TX200HC .177 coz they're AWSOME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
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    TX200HC .177 coz they're AWSOME.
    Why the HC in particular? I would have thought the full length version would sit on aim better and have milder manners than the carbine?
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    I've heard the 98's a cracker for HFT. Funnily enough I've just ordered one

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    The full length is too front heavy.
    The hc puts most of the weight back into your shoulder.
    The hc is developed from the full length harder to cock but just as accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayglowfroggy View Post

    The full length is too front heavy.
    The hc puts most of the weight back into your shoulder.
    The hc is developed from the full length, harder to cock but just as accurate.
    ^^^^^ This 100% ^^^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebull View Post

    Why the HC in particular? I would have thought the full length version would sit on aim better and have milder manners than the carbine?
    As post(s) immediately above.
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    I stand corrected. A few bad experiences have made me leery of full power springer carbines in .177.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebull View Post

    I stand corrected. A few bad experiences have made me leery of full power springer carbines in .177.
    Yep, I'm with you there, as if the rifle is too light, the snap and recoil at full hop in .177 can de dreadful, but nestled around the 11.2ft.lb Mark, the TX200HC .177 is heavy, yes, and a little harder to cock than the full length version due to the physics of the shorter under lever, true, but is without a doubt a total joy to shoot ... Bugger. Am now wishing I hadn't sold my lovely TX200HC .177 last Autumn !!!
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    In the comps I shoot it tends to be a good mix of HW97 and TX200's
    TX200's tend to be the full length version (I was using a HC but switched to full length a few months ago)
    A couple of Walthers about. Usually the LGU, seen a couple of LGV's.
    Haven't seen a HW98 for months. Don't see many at all actually

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    Yup ... It'll be the HW77/97 and the TX200 mainly. Fixed barrel ... plenty of weight. Other threads recently have often said that the peak of spring rifle design was pretty much reached with these two regarding accuracy and good triggers. So no surprise that these are still the main rifles used in comps. Often in custom stocks.

    I remember going to a Sandwell Field Sports, Tony Wall, run shoot in the 90's. Loads of people there ( 100 ) and the greatest majority shooting PCP. A guy walked onto the zero range with a 97. One bloke talking to Tony close by said something like " Hey up ... Look at this bloke here still using a HW97 springer " ... and he chuckled as if to add insult. Tony smiled and said " In 30 years time you will come to air rifle target comps ... and goodness knows what the PCP's will look like ... but I bet you there will still be blokes shooting comps with HW97's and doing ok ". Well ... we're over 20 years on and he's right so far.

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    I'm using a TX200 full length for a bit of target work, just finished building a new stock for it and the weight is much better balanced.

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    TX for me.. the HC is better balanced if you are shooting a lot of standers, but the full length is slightly more efficient and of course a fraction more stable when supported prone. Also depends if you have a custom stock, and what weight that stock is. If you have a heavy lamintate, I'd say you really want a full length. Factory walnut, the HC is loverly. I went from HC to full length. Not much in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
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    TX200HC .177 coz they're AWSOME.
    Exactly this,no more comments are needed

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    Concerning HFT and FT this country is a desert.
    I did some HFT / never tried FT - no serious competitions just alone or with a bunch of lads around here.
    So my experience is more than limited.

    My TX200HC .177 is fine but runing FAC now.
    I shot some HW97K .177 but don't own one at the moment.
    My favourite sub-12fpe is a LGU .177 with excellent accuracy.

    BUT I have a recently aquired a very nice s/h HW77 .177 25 mm system (1993) with the sporter stock.
    It's shooting quite fine but I'm afraid the spring might be broken. So far didn't look inside but will give it a proper tune as soon as temperature will rise.
    Looking desperately forward how it will cope with the LGU.

    So any advise for the HW77 please.

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