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    I've a couple of silver Premiers too, The one with brown grips is very bright, I paid £8 out of the Ad Mag when it only came out on fridays, It wouldn't work!

    I think it must have been plated with something as it never rusts (Neither have!)




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    Quote Originally Posted by vbull View Post
    The case coloured Webley I saw I believe was done properly with bone ash etc. I bought an old Marlin from the same guy which has had the treatment, looks great but costs a lot due to the ingredients used so I don't think he would cheat on the Webley. I'll ask him though. Here's a couple of pictures.

    https://flic.kr/p/22rseid
    https://flic.kr/p/23tnWd7
    This gun Smith has a good gallery of example images. They clearly work on any type of gun, but I see why it might be a difficult task to do on the thinner metals of an airgun vs the more robust sections of a firearm.
    http://www.gunrestoration.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by chieffool View Post
    This gun Smith has a good gallery of example images. They clearly work on any type of gun, but I see why it might be a difficult task to do on the thinner metals of an airgun vs the more robust sections of a firearm.
    http://www.gunrestoration.co.uk

    It's not so much the thickness of the metal that is the problem (although it can be), but where components have been brazed together they risk coming apart if the temperature of the joint gets above the temperature of the alloy (spelter) used to make the joint. Bone ash/charcoal case hardening is carried out at about 800-850 degrees C (red heat) and spelters melt at about 800-900 deg C so there is not much room for error. On the Webley Senior pictured, the raised ramp that the cocking link rides over is brazed on,and so could have been dislodged. Same for the barrel attachments, although in the example shown the barrel does not appear to have been given any case hardening treatment.

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    All the examples I've seen done by the same gunsmith he rust blues the barrels, in fact all his blueing work is rust blue for some reason. The Webley in the pictures cocks fires etc just like it did before the treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbull View Post
    All the examples I've seen done by the same gunsmith he rust blues the barrels, in fact all his blueing work is rust blue for some reason. The Webley in the pictures cocks fires etc just like it did before the treatment.
    Rust bluing is very rare these days as it involves a lot of skill and labour, unlike hot salt bluing, so this guy seems like someone to cultivate. Especially if you are restoring pre-war guns.
    If those barrels you showed were rust blued then he certainly knows his stuff.

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    Yep, he won't do any hot salt bluing, too caustic he says. A lot more expensive though, almost £100 a shotgun barrel.
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