HW30s hassles

[CapitalBee]

I've worked on a few HW30's now and despite them shooting sublimely eventually, for the asking price and the work normally involved to get them right, I don't think they're value for money. A catalogue of design / manufacturing errors:
* Gauling like you'd never believe, with extensive picking of the cylinder and two grooves cut in from the cocking arm measuring approx. 1.5mm deep.
* The fit between cocking arm and the cross pin that stops it flexing being an interference fit that only frees after the pin has been bent out of shape
* The front stock bolt tapped hole on the bracket being welded on back to front, which meant the stock bolt wouldn't locate (I had to redrill and tap the bracket to allow the bolt to fit).
*Perfekt trigger unit that went hair trigger without any notice
* The cocking slot on the piston bruising towards the rear skirt, which meant on the cocking stroke, metal to metal interference caused the action to jam up
*Out of round cylinders leading to intermittent carry forward of lube, past the piston seal

Good when fettled - but is it worth it?

[peddy]

I've worked on a few HW30's now and despite them shooting sublimely eventually, for the asking price and the work normally involved to get them right, I don't think they're value for money. A catalogue of design / manufacturing errors:
* Gauling like you'd never believe, with extensive picking of the cylinder and two grooves cut in from the cocking arm measuring approx. 1.5mm deep.
* The fit between cocking arm and the cross pin that stops it flexing being an interference fit that only frees after the pin has been bent out of shape
* The front stock bolt tapped hole on the bracket being welded on back to front, which meant the stock bolt wouldn't locate (I had to redrill and tap the bracket to allow the bolt to fit).
*Perfekt trigger unit that went hair trigger without any notice
* The cocking slot on the piston bruising towards the rear skirt, which meant on the cocking stroke, metal to metal interference caused the action to jam up
*Out of round cylinders leading to intermittent carry forward of lube, past the piston seal

Good when fettled - but is it worth it?

Like I said sounds like a smk b2 review but worst!!

[Geezer]

Thanks, all, for reminding me of one reason I haven't bought a new springer in over 20 years.

My afternoon plink today included a 1950s Diana 35 and a 1950s Webley MkIII. Both in excellent condition. Both great to shoot, even allowing for age and design issues. Both cost me less than a brand new HW30. Neither has chewed itself to bits in over 50 years of use. And they have things like proper deep bluing, no plastic bits, and hand-chequered walnut (on the Webley), and they will not depreciate in value.

[PhatMan]

eyebull,

The two (2) dimples on the breech block base, are caused by the cocking arm joint.

I filed off some metal to reduce the contact there.

My HW99S stock, is the standard Minelli stock, shortened by about 3/4", and has had the pistol grip area built up with epoxy and lolly sticks, then filed to shape.

It is painted with automotive acrylic grey undercoat, then with Ford Electric Orange Pearl.

The Minelli stock was far too long for me, and the hand position to the trigger was absolutely sh!te for me - I couldn't get the pad of my finger onto the trigger properly

Now, my trigger finger pad is at right angles to the trigger, the hand position 'correct', my trigger finger is parallel to the barrel, and the trigger can be pulled straight back - much more comfortable to shoot, and allows me to better exploit the accuracy of the 99S

Have fun

Best regards

Russ