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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    The barrel would be hinged, secured by a precision fit manual barrel latch, but only open a few degrees to allow loading.

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    Heresy! A direct-loader with a floppy barrel urghhhhhhhhhhh.

    Weren't only the early Whizzers designed along the lines of the Webley Service Mk 2 lash-up nightmare as you describe? Later ones had a proper fixed barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO!!!!!
    Heresy! A direct-loader with a floppy barrel urghhhhhhhhhhh.

    Weren't only the early Whizzers designed along the lines of the Webley Service Mk 2 lash-up nightmare as you describe? Later ones had a proper fixed barrel.
    Not sure about the Whizzers, Al, as I don't know enough about them.

    But the design I'm describing, unlike the old Webley, sees the barrel and cylinder in-line, not "piggy-backed".

    I'm not pretending that it'd be the most elegant solution, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    Not sure about the Whizzers, Al, as I don't know enough about them.

    But the design I'm describing, unlike the old Webley, sees the barrel and cylinder in-line, not "piggy-backed".

    I'm not pretending that it'd be the most elegant solution, though.
    Hmm. You might like a Rutten Winstar Mach 1, with a front-hinged underlever and a loading trap... It's like a ProSport had sex with a Webley Eclipse while thinking about a Daisy Powerline.

    https://www.co2air.de/thema/9463-rut...cal-7-5-joule/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Hmm. You might like a Rutten Winstar Mach 1, with a front-hinged underlever and a loading trap... It's like a ProSport had sex with a Webley Eclipse while thinking about a Daisy Powerline.

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    Different.....and no!

    For the one I'm describing, picture something like the LGV. Barrel still opens, but only a few degrees and with that fine (I guess) barrel latch. But barrel not connected to a cocking arm / linkage, hence the underlever. Barrel under no stress and loading is direct to breech with total safety. Nice, short transfer port like a HW80 (if the barrel latch allows).

    Although the underlever could still have your fingers! Having said that, a little like a tap loader, you'd simply cock the action and return the lever in one action, so it's not like you're having to hold it open to load.

    As mentioned previously though, it wouldn't be boasting the fastest loading sequence.

    Not even saying it'd be viable or that I have a burning desire for it, like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    Different.....and no!

    For the one I'm describing, picture something like the LGV. Barrel still opens, but only a few degrees and with that fine (I guess) barrel latch. But barrel not connected to a cocking arm / linkage, hence the underlever. Barrel under no stress and loading is direct to breech with total safety. Nice, short transfer port like a HW80 (if the barrel latch allows).
    Gotcha. Like a BSA Spitfire PCP? But with a spring and an underlever ... It's certainly an interesting variation.

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    In response to the OP. Yes they are and probably won't improve sadly.
    The emphasis nowadays is on PCPs regarding the interests of the manufacturers.
    But many of us, myself included remember the "glory days of the spring powered air rifle" and still collect and lust for the experiance.
    Same with angling, I've just shelled out for a terrific 1980's glass trotting rod and an Allcocks Aerial reel and I can't wait to use them fishing local rivers for grayling !
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    Look at the build quality of the theoben gas-rams i know the triggers was crap but everything else was above and beyond and their multi shot slr wish they had done the same with Springers also wish daystate,fx ect would have a go at making a Springer

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    Also a big problem for me that i hate about Springers is the scope mounting rails theoben had the best mounts solid as a rock don't know why other brands don't follow

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