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  1. #16
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    Thanks RM. I've just picked up a copy of the Richard Lee book which is chock full of data and info..
    That titegroup load is just a little too hot for my club
    Donald

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisdonald View Post
    I'm going to be loading .44 magnum cases for indoor 25m and need to keep it light to comply with range limits.
    I've been suggested bullseye, red dot and unique. I have a couple hundred 240gn heads but have been looking at 200gn molds as well. Anyone reload for .44?
    Yes.

    My indoor load is 4.2gr of GM3 driving a 240 grain lead bullet. Accurate and keeps within our range limits.

    As to the Titegroup load, try reducing to 4 grains and see how it performs.
    People who have been there focus on the fundamentals. People who sit at keyboards all day focus on the trivial and inane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisdonald View Post
    I'm going to be loading .44 magnum cases for indoor 25m and need to keep it light to comply with range limits.
    I've been suggested bullseye, red dot and unique. I have a couple hundred 240gn heads but have been looking at 200gn molds as well. Anyone reload for .44?
    My "go-to" load for many years was 4.9gr Viht N340 pushing a GM 240gr LTC/LRN/LSWC bullet, std. C.O.L. Speed of 637fps, for 216 ft-lb. Group size @25yd was measured at 32mm (edge-to-edge, 10 shots).

    Recently I've been using up some Viht N350. I'm using 5.6gr with a 240gr GM LSWC. With a reduced C.O.L. of 1.5" and a medium roll crimp, I get 716fps, yielding 273ft-lb. Group sizes are a little better, esp. at 50m.

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    Maxam GDB111

    Quote Originally Posted by amc577 View Post
    The Maxam flake shotgun powders can give the equivalent of Red Dot and Unique for reduced loads and pistol calibre. Now been experimenting with GDB111 almost identical to N130. Fine rod double base.

    11gns of PSB2...similar burn rate to Unique, but cleaner....has been giving me 1" groups at 100yds in 308, 7.5x55, 30-30. Using the 165gn H and N plated bullet, which does not have an outstanding bc. 8.5 gns in .222...similar results.

    Used 15gns of the GDB111 with the H and N 55gn plated bullet in my .222...this bullet has a dire bc...still got 1" groups at 100 yds.

    The CSB5 powder...about Red Dot burn rate...has been excellent in most pistol calibres.

    Powder is Spanish and speaking to one of the few uk importers, I was told not expected to be a problem after Brexit.

    Prices much less than the American powders. CSB5 £39 a kilo.....PSB2 £45 a kilo.

    The GDB111 would be good for full loads, certainly out to 300 yds..IMO. £66 a kilo.

    amc577
    hi,
    I'm new at this and I bought maxam gdb111, lapua scenar 167 and now I don't have reliable data from the powder supplier.

    So, for what I have searched, i got data from the supplier for the barnes ttsx168 and for all the powders i got info i understood that the amount needed for the TTSX is a littler bit lower than for the scenar 167.

    What I would like to ask is if someone as more data and if using the following amounts should be safe and correct?
    My idea is to do a couples of rounds from 40.6-42.7, go to the range and than proceed if needed or possible.
    Lapua scenar 167 with maxam gdb111 ttsx 168 data
    40.6
    40.9
    41.2
    41.5
    41.8
    42.1
    42.4
    42.7
    43
    43.3
    43.6
    43.9
    44.2
    44.5
    44.8
    45.1


    Data:
    Scenar min TSX min scenar max tsx max
    N540 45.4 42.1 52 47.7
    N550 49.7 45.7 55.1 50.3
    N160 55.5 50.2 61.7 56.3
    GDB111 40.6 47.5

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    From a quick google, clay and game advertise this powder and have THIS load data.

    You don't mention what calibre you're loading for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanes View Post
    From a quick google, clay and game advertise this powder and have THIS load data.

    You don't mention what calibre you're loading for.
    I have a Winchester xpr 30-06.

    I’m reloading with .308 bullets.

    Sorry for that miss

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    Hi,

    I’m reloading for a 30-06 Winchester Xpr, the bullets are .308.

    The loading data you gave is the same as the maxAm has available but it doesn’t have for my specific bullets.

    My question, taking into consideration the other data is:
    Should it be safe to use the data from the barne Ttsx 168 since for the other powders I have data, when using the scenar 167 they actually need a little bit more powder.?

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    All those maxam 30/06 loads are for hunting bullets.
    My advice - and it is only a suggestion - would be to use the 168 barnes starting load with your scenar.
    Use your magazine and chamber to dictate OAL. Chrono a few rounds/check primers/check ease of bolt lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mag44uk View Post
    All those maxam 30/06 loads are for hunting bullets.
    My advice - and it is only a suggestion - would be to use the 168 barnes starting load with your scenar.
    Use your magazine and chamber to dictate OAL. Chrono a few rounds/check primers/check ease of bolt lift.
    Thank you so much.

    I’m starting to reload and I just wanted a more experience opinion.

    Super

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