Which blowback?

[tinbum]

I'm toying with getting a blowback pistol but can't decide which to get. I want the best build quality rather than the cheapest and am thinking either a Luger, M712, a Colt 911 or something else I've missed if there's a goodun out there. H&K maybe?

Any thoughts from the knowledgable folk?

[eyebull]

Sod all of the 4.5mm bb guns. They may look good but they are plagued with build issues, and spares and mags are not easy to come by.
Buy a good, well established 6mm gun like the TM Hi Capa 5.1 (or their service 1911 if you want that replica vibe). You'll have no problem buying spares, aftermarket parts and magazines.

[AdeC]

Sod all of the 4.5mm bb guns. They may look good but they are plagued with build issues, and spares and mags are not easy to come by.
Buy a good, well established 6mm gun like the TM Hi Capa 5.1 (or their service 1911 if you want that replica vibe). You'll have no problem buying spares, aftermarket parts and magazines.

Which is great if you've got a ukara defense for owning a toy gun. If you don't then you might be ok with having it in pink if that's your preference.
Blowback pistols are always going to suffer from more reliability issues but as long as you're not shooting hundreds of shots a day and you maintain them they're ok for what they are. The 1911's are by far the most popular but I'd recommend the sig X-five/kwc 226 s-5 (same gun) as it's accurate too.
For authenticity, reliability and build quality you're looking at a revolver really and the pellet versions of the SAA, Webley mkVI and Schofield are regarded as top of the tree.
I'm sure someone will be along to disagree with all of the above soon though...

[short-carabine]

ASG Cz75 P-09 in .177 pellet. Reliable and accurate. As long as you aren't worried about lockback on last shot (impossible with pellet blow backs and pretty pointless really) or a cut out ejection port (again pointless as there are no shells to eject, and just a dirt trap). Mine has done well over 2000 pellets without a hitch. Good blowback action too.

[eyebull]

Which is great if you've got a ukara defense for owning a toy gun. If you don't then you might be ok with having it in pink if that's your preference.
Blowback pistols are always going to suffer from more reliability issues but as long as you're not shooting hundreds of shots a day and you maintain them they're ok for what they are. The 1911's are by far the most popular but I'd recommend the sig X-five/kwc 226 s-5 (same gun) as it's accurate too.
For authenticity, reliability and build quality you're looking at a revolver really and the pellet versions of the SAA, Webley mkVI and Schofield are regarded as top of the tree.
I'm sure someone will be along to disagree with all of the above soon though...

I'm sure Nick is secure enough in his masculinity to not mind

Call me a cynical old (before my time) curmudgeon, but I don't think 'being ok for what they are as long as you don't shoot them too much' is really good enough, frankly.
Perhaps if we were paying US prices then I wouldn't mind.
But take the TFW 1911 and all its clones - marvellous replica, but plagued with issues (including major safety issues - pull the trigger on mine with the safety on, and when you take the safety off the hammer will drop. It didn't even get shot that much) and with zero aftermarket support, to the extent that even the magazines were near impossible to get at one point.

As long as no one buys them with the expectation of them being anything but disposable, self-destructing toys, that's fine.

[Aimstraight]

I'm toying with getting a blowback pistol but can't decide which to get. I want the best build quality rather than the cheapest and am thinking either a Luger, M712, a Colt 911 or something else I've missed if there's a goodun out there. H&K maybe?

Any thoughts from the knowledgable folk?

The blowback P08 Luger from KWC is a delight to own, to see it's unusual action close up and is nicely put together, but it is a real gas guzzler and so the power drops off early.

[tinbum]

Immediate, useful answers. Thanks chaps!

I'm currently at our foreign residence so I don't need permission to have a non-pink toy gun, but I wouldn't know where to start with them.
As far as revolvers go, I have a couple of Brocock TAC pistols and a black powder Colt 1851, so I think a mazak version would leave me a little underwhelmed.
But gas guzzlers.... well, that's fine. My mini Uzi barely gets a whole mag out on full auto, but its fun doing it.
I particularly like the idea of a Luger as I feel it will get more done with regard to the Marie and any future changes to the house. The French have long memories and a rapid goose-step around the town square should have them seeing things my way.

Which is the best Luger? Exact model name and number. (Don't tell him Pike!)

[eyebull]

Immediate, useful answers. Thanks chaps!

I'm currently at our foreign residence so I don't need permission to have a non-pink toy gun, but I wouldn't know where to start with them.

Can't go wrong with Tokyo Marui (TM).

[tinbum]

Can't go wrong with Tokyo Marui (TM).

None of my usual suppliers seem to carry them. I'm also worried with a name like that it will be a load of old tosh!

[AdeC]

The KWC P08 in my opinion as it's not plastered with daft writing and it has a full sized mag with co2, not those piddly stick mags

[Aimstraight]

.....Which is the best Luger? Exact model name and number. (Don't tell him Pike!)

AFAIK, KWC only do the one blowback P08, so not aware of any specific part number.

The one we are referring to is detailed HERE.

[Benelli B76]

Immediate, useful answers. Thanks chaps!

I'm currently at our foreign residence so I don't need permission to have a non-pink toy gun, but I wouldn't know where to start with them.
As far as revolvers go, I have a couple of Brocock TAC pistols and a black powder Colt 1851, so I think a mazak version would leave me a little underwhelmed.
But gas guzzlers.... well, that's fine. My mini Uzi barely gets a whole mag out on full auto, but its fun doing it.
I particularly like the idea of a Luger as I feel it will get more done with regard to the Marie and any future changes to the house. The French have long memories and a rapid goose-step around the town square should have them seeing things my way.

Which is the best Luger? Exact model name and number. (Don't tell him Pike!)

The Mini Uzi usually get a full mag full auto, think temperature makes a difference. If you like that type of fun South Africa can provide, my mate has a few sub machine guns, just buy a case of 9mil.


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[robs5230]

I'm toying with getting a blowback pistol but can't decide which to get. I want the best build quality rather than the cheapest and am thinking either a Luger, M712, a Colt 911 or something else I've missed if there's a goodun out there. H&K maybe?

Any thoughts from the knowledgable folk?

I asked a similar question a while ago Nick.

I ended up getting a Umarex Colt 1911 CQBP. i'm really pleased with it. (branded Umarex but KWC made)
Mine is in the FDE colourway and the warning writing is a lot more subdued than in the black.
I've also owned a couple of the PPK 's over the years. Never had any kind of issue with them only the top of the stick mags that tend to come apart after some sustained use. Easily and cheaply replaced though when they do give in.
Oddly enough I have another PPK landing today.
If you find your way up here at any point, you're welcome to try all mine. I have a few pellet firers too and an uzi
I also have a rather nice Magic9 custom built 1911.

Next ones on my list will probably be
possibly the CQBP in black, I like the FDE one that much (sportsman have them at a good price)
an ASG cz75 (supposed to be good quality and I used to shoot the 9mm one)
Lastly the Umarex (again not sure Umarex made) Beretta m92 A1 - Very good replica and again well put together according to the reviews but not cheap.

There are also a few pellet blowback pistols so don't rule them out.
Sig 226
ASG PZ09 duty
The infamous Umarex Desert Eagle - Literally just sold one, being a man of your huge stature it would have really suited you