Look at the difference that 25 years make.

[lensman57]

I like the old one better.
FT shooting in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwzk5JSfwY
FT shooting in modern times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLXqp1mQSE&t=2s

A.G

[imorik]

Looks like Terry Doe in the first one

[Terry D]

Looks like Terry Doe in the first one

Ah, them wuz the days!

Great times for me and for those who shared the FT circuit back then. Those who do so now are enjoying themselves and building their own great memories, just like we did.

Long may it be so.

[bozzer]

It does come across as a more organised sport these days on many of the videos. Maybe all the target rifles and target jackets help create that image.

I'm not sure it's actually any better from a shooting point of view. The wind and the misses on the target plates have no respect for what kit is being worn or used. It's still the same old story ... those that can shoot knock down most targets.

Always fascinates me looking at the videos. Look at the trigger techniques of target shooters using a few grands worth of kit.

1993 was about the time I started going to clubs.

I've been involved in amateur sport all my life. The older I get the more convinced I am that it's not a lot to do with performance.

[Gareth W-B]

I like the old one better.

FT shooting in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwzk5JSfwY
FT shooting in modern times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLXqp1mQSE&t=2s

A.G

Yes, the old one from 1993 does seem the more 'real' and (imho) the far less contrived and sanitised of the two, but times they do go a-changin' and nostalgia just ain't what it used to be.

Great to see not only our very own TD in the first clip, but also, me Ol' Mucka 'Holly' getting a gong at the end of the opening presentation bit (and bless my soul, he still wears that self-same red fleece to this day, lol ) ...

[Gareth W-B]

Yes, the old one from 1993 does seem the more 'real' and (imho) the far less contrived and sanitised of the two, but times they do go a-changin' and nostalgia just ain't what it used to be.

Great to see not only our very own TD in the first clip, but also, me Ol' Mucka 'Holly' getting a gong at the end of the opening presentation bit (and bless my soul, he still wears that self-same red fleece to this day, lol ) ...

Hi Lensman57, forgot to ask. Is the setting / club / ground in the first clip from 1993 'Springfield Air Rifle Club' (S.A.R.C.) from when it was located near the fish farm just outside of Ongar, or possibly the ground S.A.R.C. later moved to near Nine Ashes just outside of Ongar (where S.A.R.C. is still situated to this day -- although my money is on it being the fish farm if it is S.A.R.C. due to my memory of the time-line), or is it an early glimpse of ETL near the aptly named town of Grays, as I am sure I recognise the location (but given my age and penchant for cider, it is highly likely that I am quite wrong lol ). Cheers: G.

[Baxterbasics]

Great Videos-recognised a few faces from the first one-at 14.49 God makes an appearance and then keeps popping up to steal all the precious, shiny things

Is that our own Prone Shooter at 17.24?

[lensman57]

Here is another one from the master himself. We all love to see him. A very well presented and explained technique if I may so myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sa7ODrtWMY

A.G

[lensman57]

Hi Lensman57, forgot to ask. Is the setting / club / ground in the first clip from 1993 'Springfield Air Rifle Club' (S.A.R.C.) from when it was located near the fish farm just outside of Ongar, or possibly the ground S.A.R.C. later moved to near Nine Ashes just outside of Ongar (where S.A.R.C. is still situated to this day -- although my money is on it being the fish farm if it is S.A.R.C. due to my memory of the time-line), or is it an early glimpse of ETL near the aptly named town of Grays, as I am sure I recognise the location (but given my age and penchant for cider, it is highly likely that I am quite wrong lol ). Cheers: G.

I wish I knew my friend. The caption says it was in the South East somewhere . Perhaps Terry would remember.

A.G

[Gareth W-B]

I wish I knew my friend. The caption says it was in the South East somewhere . Perhaps Terry would remember.

A.G

Then my money is still on either S.A.R.C. or E.T.L. Have sent a message to Holly to log-on and come take a look-see, too, so (hopefully) between TD and Holly the ground should be identified (unless that is, like me, they've also been on the cider a little to much since '93 ??? ). Atb: G.

[scimitar]

That is ETL Brothers of FT . taking the film is Colin Eaton . giving out prizes is Barry Warren .both of which were at the worlds last year in wales . you can see wayne twelthtrees and Matt Knock in it as well . good days . if interested you can see Big Terry and Dave Welham going on about FT back in the day over on the airgun forum.net . now back then i was going somewhere in FT . i am still going there , i just have forgotten where it is ??? HOLLY

PS see you at some of the GPs .

[C.V]

I usually prefer things from the old days but after seeing 'Hoddle and Waddle' in their too-short shorts leaning up against the car, i'm not so sure!

[Gareth W-B]

That is ETL Brothers of FT . taking the film is Colin Eaton . giving out prizes is Barry Warren .both of which were at the worlds last year in wales . you can see wayne twelthtrees and Matt Knock in it as well . good days . if interested you can see Big Terry and Dave Welham going on about FT back in the day over on the airgun forum.net . now back then i was going somewhere in FT . i am still going there , i just have forgotten where it is ??? HOLLY

PS see you at some of the GPs .

Cheers Holly. So, ETL it was/is then, and not the SARC fish farm site. A lot of those names you list are still floating around ETL and SARC, too. Further, those FT shooters (your self included) were the trail blazers responsible for the development of every aspect of the sub 12ft.lb air gun scene as we now know it today (including HFT, as I remember clearly when HFT came into being off the back of FT around 2002 time-ish). See, I knew you must be good for something, Holly. It just took us a while to find out what ???

[Gareth W-B]

I usually prefer things from the old days but after seeing 'Hoddle and Waddle' in their too-short shorts leaning up against the car, i'm not so sure!

Then thank your lucky stars it was ETL and not SARC when at the fish farm then, as with the water of the fish farm, them there shorts may've been replaced by SPEEDO's !!!

[Big Bazza]

Bit of a nostalgia trip, haven't seen this video for some while, sad to see a lot of shooters no longer with us, bit like Holly's teeth.