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    Gun Tuff Scopes ...

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    ... What do we reckon to them? Ramsbottom's, our BBS sponsor, has a really rather nice looking 6x40 std cross hair Gun Tuff scope -- which looks period enough not to look out of place on one of my 1980s rifles -- for a highly competitive £12.99 posted. Admittedly I prefer a mil-dot scope, but scopes with that reticule type which would suit a period looking air rifle combo, seem unobtainable (unless you know better ). Thoughts on all, please, but at the moment, said Gun Tuff scope is very much at the top of my list ...

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    Anyone?
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    I've no idea but at the price of a tin of pellets it's got to be worth a punt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post
    I've no idea but at the price of a tin of pellets it's got to be not very good.
    Fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post

    I've no idea but at the price of a tin of pellets it's got to be worth a punt.
    Fair point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

    Fixed that for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by gtfreight View Post

    I've no idea but at the price of a tin of pellets it's got to be not very good.
    Fair point.

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    everything has a base price, below which the quality becomes unviable... would you buy a brand new car for a grand ?

    I'm with Geezer...
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed tuner View Post

    everything has a base price, below which the quality becomes unviable... would you buy a brand new car for a grand ?

    I'm with Geezer...
    Good analogy, as I'd not even buy a brand new car for under four grand. Okay then, back to the bay of eeee -- and Ed's www. site -- I go (cheers chaps).
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    Heck, Gareth, they may be fine. Don't trust me. But a tenner or so for optics? Really?

    I am a long-term convert, from experience, to the idea that a scope should cost (roughly) as much as the rifle it is mounted on. My only big exception being used 80s Japanese glass in vintage 80s springers. Where, if you are lucky, you can still snag a good bargain at 25 quid or so (e.g. a non-sought after brand like Edgar Brothers in an unfashionable but useful format like 4x32).

    I seem to have more scopes than rifles. I must stop buying scopes.

    Can't help you with the wish for gloss and a fancy reticule, although Leupold still make some gloss scopes, even if they aren't sold over here (eg 3-9x32EFR).

    Personally, anything more than 30/30 confuses and slows me down. Last time I shot something with a clever "tree" reticle (Elcan, or ACOG, can't recall which), it just made my head hurt compared to aiming off with a simple cross-hair. But I am an old git in this respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
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    ...for a highly competitive £12.99 posted.

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    So less (say) 2.50 post (min)
    10.50
    Less VAT (nom)
    8.70
    Less retail margin at minimum (nom)
    7.00
    Less importer's margin at bare minimum (nom)
    6.30
    Less duty (nom)
    6.00
    Less shipping (nom)
    5.80
    Less manufacturer's margin (nom min)
    5.30

    So conservatively the scope costs £5 -ish to make inc materials, machining, labour, and all factory overheads.

    What sort of scope exactly do we expect for a nominal £3 - £3.50 in materials?
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    Quote Originally Posted by air-tech View Post
    What sort of scope exactly do we expect for a nominal £3 - £3.50 in materials?
    we did try to warn him
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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