Webley seniors, premiers etc breech seal question

[vbull]

When replacing the breech seal on these older Webley's, those guns that had the original leather seal, what do you guys prefer to replace it with, a newer alternative, if so what, or perhaps even make a new leather seal ? If you go for making a leather seal, what do you cut the seal from as I can't think of anything suitable unless somehow punched from a thick piece of leather ? Thanks.

[Jenny Dipple]

Some people use small rubber cable grommets with a flange cut off, for a good seal!

[Troubledshooter]

I still have a small quantity of original Webley 'Nitrile' breech seals available @£3.50 including postage within the UK.
These fit all Webley air pistols up to and including the Tempest/Hurricane.

[eyebull]

Never been a fan of the the rubber seals as sold by T.W. Chambers. They rarely seem to fit all that well.

[Abasmajor]

I ensure the pistols that I consider to be of collection standard and therefore rarely shot have leather breech washers, but use the rubber ones on the regularly used ones. Fitting replacement leather seals can be a bit of a chore sometimes, but the rubber ones seem to go in easily especially if you have one of the neat little tools specifically designed for the purpose.

Brian

[eyebull]

...Fitting replacement leather seals can be a bit of a chore sometimes, but the rubber ones seem to go in easily especially if you have one of the neat little tools specifically designed for the purpose.

Brian

What tool is that, do you have a picture?

[vbull]

Thanks Dave......I would be very interested to see the tool as well, any chance of a picture Brian ?

[Troubledshooter]

Here's a photograph of a Webley breech seal tool.
The sizes:
Overall Length: 3 1/2" (89mm)

Overall Diameter: 25/64" (9.85mm)

1st. Step: 9/64" Dia. x 11/64" (3.45mm x 4.30mm)

2nd. Step: 5/16" Dia. x 11/32" Depth (8.15mm x 8.60mm)

The other end of the tool has a chamfered edge.

It is constructed from blued steel, although I would think a Brass one would do the job just as well, which is probably easier to turn up on a lathe.

[RichardH]

Here's a photograph of a Webley breech seal tool.
The sizes:
Overall Length: 3 1/2" (89mm)

Overall Diameter: 25/64" (9.85mm)

1st. Step: 9/64" Dia. x 11/64" (3.45mm x 4.30mm)

2nd. Step: 5/16" Dia. x 11/32" Depth (8.15mm x 8.60mm)

The other end of the tool has a chamfered edge.

It is constructed from blued steel.

Thats brilliant I'll build one this weekend

Thanks

[vbull]

Thanks Dave...

[eyebull]

Here's a photograph of a Webley breech seal tool.
The sizes:
Overall Length: 3 1/2" (89mm)

Overall Diameter: 25/64" (9.85mm)

1st. Step: 9/64" Dia. x 11/64" (3.45mm x 4.30mm)

2nd. Step: 5/16" Dia. x 11/32" Depth (8.15mm x 8.60mm)

The other end of the tool has a chamfered edge.

It is constructed from blued steel.

Thanks for posting! Think it would be ok in brass?

[Abasmajor]

What tool is that, do you have a picture?

Hello,

Here are a couple of pictures of the breech washer seating tool I obtained from John Knibbs International a few years ago now, I'm not sure if they are still available, but should be quite easy to make yourself if you have the facilities. The pin obviously goes into the hole at the centre and helps to align things correctly with the shoulder then providing even pressure to the face of the washer. A drop of lubricant applied to the washer before insertion also makes seating a bit easier and helps ensure a nice air tight seal.





Hope this helps

Brian

[vbull]

Thanks Brian and Dave, a big help....