Carbine confusion

[Trumpetier]

I have just bought a S510 Carbine, BUT alongside my S400 Carbine, the 510 is a few inches longer, more like the classic length looking at pictures of the 510 they all seem longer than the 400/410 K. Anyone ?

[junglie]

I have just bought a S510 Carbine, BUT alongside my S400 Carbine, the 510 is a few inches longer, more like the classic length looking at pictures of the 510 they all seem longer than the 400/410 K. Anyone ?

Is it just the shroud lenth longer or is the air tube longer too? Look out for clipping with a long silencer fitted,i've seen one suffer badly from this caused by shroud misalignment.

[Murphy]

The word carbine is not standardised in any way.

If a maker has 2 rifle models and one is shorter then the other thats the carbine.

Comparing 2 carbine lengths especially 2 different models is just silly.

[Fat_Controller]

Both the S510 Carbine & Super light traditional length rifle, have the same length barrel according to the air-arms page...

This does make things a little confusing as according to the specification page they are the same dimensions, and also the longer traditional rifle is still stamped Carbine, but...the dimensions are actually different if you have the proper carbine the barrel length should be about 40cm , the classic rifle is nearer to 50cm the air tank is also longer

I had the opposite problem, I wanted the full length rifle not the carbine

[angrybear]

I have just bought a S510 Carbine, BUT alongside my S400 Carbine, the 510 is a few inches longer, more like the classic length looking at pictures of the 510 they all seem longer than the 400/410 K. Anyone ?

When the S510 first came out it was the FAC at 43" with a 19.5" barrel, the sub 12 carbine is 37" with a 15.5" barrel,
It also originally had the short air tube from the 410 carbine, which looked way better.

[Trumpetier]

Just been speaking to my RFD, he said that the 510 Carbine, has the same length air cylinder as the 400/410 classic. You would think AA would have put the 400/410 K air tube on the 510k, how odd.

[lensman57]

Is it just the shroud lenth longer or is the air tube longer too? Look out for clipping with a long silencer fitted,i've seen one suffer badly from this caused by shroud misalignment.

The510has a shroud and a baffle system that adds to the length I guess.

[Trumpetier]

Cylinder is the same length as the classic 400/410

[Murphy]

Just been speaking to my RFD, he said that the 510 Carbine, has the same length air cylinder as the 400/410 classic. You would think AA would have put the 400/410 K air tube on the 510k, how odd.

Why ?!

Its a different model.

They make 2 S510's and the carbine one is shorter than the other.

Whats odd ?!

Is it odd that my HW97k is 10cm longer than my S410k ?!

[Trumpetier]

Yes the 510 is a different model BUT I would of expected the standard length 510 to have the 400 classic length cylinder and the 510k to have the same length cylinder as the 400 k, both being the Carbine.

[Murphy]

Yes the 510 is a different model BUT I would of expected the standard length 510 to have the 400 classic length cylinder and the 510k to have the same length cylinder as the 400 k, both being the Carbine.

Maybe you should use a tape measure instead of assumption on your next purchase then.

[Trumpetier]

Maybe you should use a tape measure instead of assumption on your next purchase then.

Guess you just don't grasp it

[Murphy]

Guess you just don't grasp it

No I grasp it fine.

YOU assumed the S510k would be the same length as the S410k.

Even though it is a totally different model.

And now you seem to think thats AA fault somehow?!

If you look on https://www.air-arms.co.uk all the info is there so you can view before you buy next time.

[Trumpetier]

No I grasp it fine.

YOU assumed the S510k would be the same length as the S410k.

Even though it is a totally different model.

And now you seem to think thats AA fault somehow?!

If you look on https://www.air-arms.co.uk all the info is there so you can view before you buy next time.

Totally different model ? Come on the 510 is heavily based on the 400/410 format. I'm actually happy with my purchase, all I was saying was that I would of naturally expected the 510k to be the same length as the 400/410 K that's all.

[Murphy]

Totally different model ? Come on the 510 is heavily based on the 400/410 format. I'm actually happy with my purchase, all I was saying was that I would of naturally expected the 510k to be the same length as the 400/410 K that's all.

The rapid MFR, MK2 and S-type all had the same actions bit different size bottles and barrels.

Should they all not be the same length based on action?!

Unless they all had different names maybe?!