Mini cannon

[tacfoley]

Section 1 in this country, we shoot them at club.

Even so short?

Elucidation would be appreciated, since I'm floundering here.

tac

[DedIdick]

Even so short?

Elucidation would be appreciated, since I'm floundering here.

tac

Not to sure, never seen anyone with one so small, usually 6-12".

[DesG]

It's a muzzle loader so I don't think there is a minimum barrel length.

[Turnup]

It's a muzzle loader so I don't think there is a minimum barrel length.

..is correct. But it is still S1.

[enfield2band]

I found this snippet but not much else.

Shotgun or Firearm? There is no reason why you should not be permitted to have one or more cannon if you already have a Shotgun Certificate (SGC) or Firearms Certificate (FAC). A smooth bore of less than 2” calibre with a barrel at least 24” long is a shotgun and can be placed on a SGC. Anything else is a firearm.

I'll have a mooch and see what I can find out.

[tacfoley]

I found this snippet but not much else.

Shotgun or Firearm? There is no reason why you should not be permitted to have one or more cannon if you already have a Shotgun Certificate (SGC) or Firearms Certificate (FAC). A smooth bore of less than 2” calibre with a barrel at least 24” long is a shotgun and can be placed on a SGC. Anything else is a firearm.

I'll have a mooch and see what I can find out.

My concern is how the PTB view a firearm with a barrel of around 2" that has no 'stock'. Most mini-cannon I've seen are at least 6" long barrel-wise, and Section 1. A SGC would cover multiple shotguns of the type covered by the Shtogun Certificate, but NOT a Section 1 shotgun like this. One Section 1 shotgun = 1 entry on a FAC.

tac

[DesG]

I have three table top cannons with barrels of between 11 and 12". They are all section 1. It doesn't matter if they are smoothbore or rifled (except for competition purposes) as they are under 24" barrel length. Anything over 24" and with a bore up to two inch can be held on a SGC. Obviously the small ones are more dangerous in the eyes of officialdom! This little tiny one would def be section 1.

[tacfoley]

I have three table top cannons with barrels of between 11 and 12". They are all section 1. It doesn't matter if they are smoothbore or rifled (except for competition purposes) as they are under 24" barrel length. Anything over 24" and with a bore up to two inch can be held on a SGC. Obviously the small ones are more dangerous in the eyes of officialdom! This little tiny one would def be section 1.

I wasn't arguing with the fact that it is Section 1, I was concenred that the PTB would object to a Section 1 firearm that had a 2" barrel. In any event, it would have to be imported via a RFD, who would have to have it proofed before he could pass it on to the prospective owner.

Seems like way too much trouble for a novelty that in most other countries in the civilised world would be viewed as a Christmas tree decoration.

tac