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    Hi all.. been thinking a bit about reducing my PCP collection to 1. Having had problems with my Bsa and not getting much time on my daystate I'm wondering if I can fit all this in one gun and get a .20 instead of a .177 & a .22... Something reliable and consistent. I figured that having 1 gun also reduces the parafinailia and the cost of upkeep. Plus it leaves 1 extra slot for another Springer ......
    What's people's thoughts? One gun .20 or 1 .177 & 1 .22?
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    I guess I'm also asking if .20 is versitile enough to do rats in a barn at 8-10yrd all day long (or night if you want to be pedantic ) and then go into a field and bash bunnies at 35yrd all day long??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrider View Post
    "Beware the Man with One Gun" !
    My thoughts entirely
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    Not up to speed on current PCP's Rhys, certainly "old school" but if it were me I'd have a .20 R7 Mk. 2 on ticket. That would do anything I've ever done or asked for in my airgunning career. Others would differ of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrider View Post
    Not up to speed on current PCP's Rhys, certainly "old school" but if it were me I'd have a .20 R7 Mk. 2 on ticket. That would do anything I've ever done or asked for in my airgunning career. Others would differ of course.
    So you would rate the .20 as a good long & short range hunting caliber then sir?
    I'm actually looking at the hw100 in sub 12.
    I'm just a bit sick of feeling like I have the "wrong tool for the job" because I left my other gun at home if you know what I mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrider View Post
    "Beware the Man with One Gun" !
    That saying originated because it was noticed that people with only one pistol were more accurate. It makes sense because if you have a lot of rifles etc you have to get used to them each time you take them out. The full saying is "Beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it" Clint Smith. We used the saying a lot in Africa when taking part in practical pistol competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Hi all.. been thinking a bit about reducing my PCP collection to 1. Having had problems with my Bsa and not getting much time on my daystate I'm wondering if I can fit all this in one gun and get a .20 instead of a .177 & a .22... Something reliable and consistent. I figured that having 1 gun also reduces the parafinailia and the cost of upkeep. Plus it leaves 1 extra slot for another Springer ......
    What's people's thoughts? One gun .20 or 1 .177 & 1 .22?
    Thanks
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    Sorry just sold it .......There’s a lovely .20 sk for sale on here Rhys I am only in warminster so not far if you want a look! I’ve just got a Steyr hunting 5 .177 so the .20 has got to go ,huge amount of pigeons and squirrels with it last year and I am taking a risk as the Steyr hasn’t proven itself yet ! I just wish they done the Steyr auto in .20 . I might even be talking myself into keeping the hw 100 and feel I might keep it until at least I have had success with the Steyr Mike SOLD SOLD
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    I've said this several times, but everytime I go to the range with my .20 97 I wonder why I bother using anything else.

    I've shot a decent hft score with it too (I've only shot HFT twice in my life so might be beginners luck!). Trajectory is pretty much the same as .177 out to 30m.

    One hole groups are easily achieved at 25m too.

    Then I remember the day I took it hunting. It's very heavy to lug it round for a few miles over stone walls etc...

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    If I take my shotgun round the field, s, you can guarantee a situation will arise were I wish I'd had my air rifle and vice versa If you can reduce it to one pcp mate, I think in the long run it can only be a good thing. Mmmm, wonder if I can follow my own advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggs View Post
    Sorry just sold it .......There’s a lovely .20 sk for sale on here Rhys I am only in warminster so not far if you want a look! I’ve just got a Steyr hunting 5 .177 so the .20 has got to go ,huge amount of pigeons and squirrels with it last year and I am taking a risk as the Steyr hasn’t proven itself yet ! I just wish they done the Steyr auto in .20 . I might even be talking myself into keeping the hw 100 and feel I might keep it until at least I have had success with the Steyr Mike SOLD SOLD
    Lol!! Yes I know.. it was your sales thread that inspired the thought process. I wasn't expecting it to be still available by the time I'd decided and or sold both of my other rifles.. thanks for the thought though
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Lol!! Yes I know.. it was your sales thread that inspired the thought process. I wasn't expecting it to be still available by the time I'd decided and or sold both of my other rifles.. thanks for the thought though
    Just hope I don’t regret it .

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    With 12ft/lbs rifles then its shot placement be it any of the usual calibre's. Nothing else matters.
    .20 adds little to any equation not covered between .177 or .22, and the fact finding a pellet that a rifle likes is much harder in .20 unless lucky.

    So like many before you, you are searching for a solution that isn't really any solution at all.
    If you fancy having a .20 then have one, but its not for any of the arguments speculated.
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    If I was looking for for one rifle to do shorter range rats and longer range vermin too I would get a .22" and a range finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskett View Post
    With 12ft/lbs rifles then its shot placement be it any of the usual calibre's. Nothing else matters.
    .20 adds little to any equation not covered between .177 or .22, and the fact finding a pellet that a rifle likes is much harder in .20 unless lucky.

    So like may before you, you are searching for a solution that isn't really any solution at all.
    If you fancy having a .20 then have one, but its not for any of the arguments speculated.
    There is definitely a big difference between .177 & .22 when I comes to barn work.. it was the reason I bought a .22 in the first place. full tilt sub 12 .177 at 10 yards really badly over penetrates and I believe at these ranges does do less damage. I definitely get more kills with .22 in this situation.
    "corners should be round" Theo Evo .22/.177 - Meopta 6x42, DS huntsman classic .20 vortex razor LH 3-15x42 under supervised boingrati tuning by Tony L & Tinbum, HW77 forest green - Nikon prostaff 2-7x32 plex.

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