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  1. #1
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    Making a Simple Bar Holder

    Making a bar holder can be simple and easy from 1/2" (or thicker) plywood.

    First find yourself a piece of 50mm bar cut to the minimum permitted length of 100mm long (it can be longer if you prefer - our's are 125mm long). The easiest way to do this is to buy a piece of mild steel bar from you local metal supplier cut to length to save a lot of hard work with a hack saw!

    You could make this bar from hard wood, but 50mm diameter steel (or other metal bar) is a lot easier to find.

    We have also made a couple from 50mm outside diameter alloy pipe. This also works just as well and it much easier to cut to length and weighs a lot less too!

    Cut some strips of the 1/2' (or thicker) plywood to 25mm wide and cut two lengths exactly the same length as your piece of bar.

    Place them (on end so they stand 25mm high) each side of your bar centrally on a baseboard cut from your plywood and run some thin superglue down the outside edge of each strip keeping them as tight as possible to the bar to make a very close fit. This will dry almost instantly making assembly fast and easy.

    Cut two more short lengths so you can superglue one tightly across each end to completely surround the bar completing the box that will retain the bar securely on the base board.

    Remove the bar and run superglue completely around every joint (inside and outside) to make a really secure open box fixed to your baseboard. Modern superglues are very powerful and are more than up to the job but the steel bar is very heavy so I also added some headless nails to the joints for additional security.

    Your bar holder is now assembled and can finished in any way you choose. As we made ours from used scrap (and water damaged) plywood the finish was not too good so we painted ours to improve the appearance and to help them survive a future life in our cellar!

    When the bar is placed in the retaining box, only the top half will be showing and it can be removed anytime for cleaning or for safe transport.

    All that remains now is to fasten it to your chosen stand. We used heavy duty speaker stands and these usually come with a flat top to mount the speaker on so all that needs to be done is to screw your bar stand onto this fat top and it is ready to use!


    To fit the speaker stands that we used the ply base was made 5" wide. We decided to make the base a bit longer than the bar holding box so we had enough left over on each side to hold a plastic pellet holder box or a tin of pellets.

    Some self adhesive Velcro can be used to secure the pellet holders (if you choose this option) so they are easy to place securely on the sand for convenient use when Supported Air Rifle Shooing ( SARS).

    We will be having a go at Supported Air Pistol Shooting (SAPS) too in the future and will use these same stands and bar holders for this discipline too. The speaker stands can be easily adjusted in height to suits any shooter for pistol or rifle use.
    Last edited by zooma; 13-03-2018 at 09:51 AM.
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    New Life for Old PCP Rifles - Feinwerkbau P70.

    When we first started to plan the "new to us" Supported Air Rifle Shooting (SARS) discipline at our club we looked to see what would be the most suitable types of air rifles to use. We also hoped that some of the less expensive types would be as competitive as the latest (expensive) crop of PCP match rifles to help encourage newcomers to "join in" by not being put-off by the equipment cost.

    As we are a target club, most of our air rifles are match rifles, and most of them are recoilless, so we had a good pool of models and types to look at and to test to see what was the most likely to work the best. We think that they can all have their advantages, and all of them can be made suitable for SARS at a modest cost. None of them "need" to be modified for SARS shooting but if used every week it may be desirable to protect the undersurface of the stock from "bar rub".

    SSP rifles usually need to be removed from the bar for the easiest re-cocking method and this was thought to be a good idea as it forces a break between shots and prevents too many "rushed" shots being taken. These rifles are also comparatively inexpensive and have excellent triggers together with a totally recoilless action so they make a really good choice. More about these at a later date.

    Some of the oldest PCP match rifles are quite cumbersome and heavy compared to the latest crop of much thinner and lighter weight PCP match rifles, and although they are still "pin-point" accurate they have been discarded (prematurely) by many of us in favour of various newer types.

    One of these is the FEINWERKBAU P70. We have some of these excellent rifles in our club (the type with the alloy stock), but they were not being used much by any of us any more as we had all bought newer models that are smaller, lighter, and generally easier to balance and shoot in the usual free standing position - but the P70 rifles remained extremely accurate and have a very good trigger.

    The cocking action of the P70 match rifle is also ideally suited to SARS as it is easy to simply push the cocking levers forward - either left or right handed as they are on mounted on both sides of the rifle, and this can be done without removing the rifle from the bar (all PCP rifles can be cocked and loaded without removing them from the bar).

    The P70 rifles have a "nose heavy" balance and this suits SARS perfectly and works well.

    Those that read the Target/Competition shooting section of the BBS will have noticed that I failed to sell my red "as new" P70 match rifle a few weeks back and this turned out to be a really unexpected bonus. I had some genuine regrets about parting with it, so when we started SARS I was delighted to take it off sale and to give it some regular work - probably for the first time in its life!

    The P70 rifles have been given a new lease of life in SARS shooting, and we actually think that they are at least as good as any of the newer and more expensive PCP match rifles, but no PCP rifle will be able to beat a better shooter with an SSP rifle.

    As an aside, our alloy P70 match rifles are either coloured red or blue. We have never seen a black coloured P70 but have been told there were plenty of them made so we are looking forward to seeing the first black alloy P70 come through the doors of our club and we have yet to see the various laminated stock P70's !
    Last edited by zooma; 27-03-2018 at 09:37 AM.
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    SARS is still going strong and is proving to be the post popular discipline in our club - it is well worth giving it a try!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    SARS is still going strong and is proving to be the post popular discipline in our club - it is well worth giving it a try!
    Sounds like it might be of interest to some of the shooters at my range. Thanks for taking the time to detail your findings.
    Is there a website perhaps with the rules for SARS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptilemarine View Post
    Brill, thank you

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    SARS is still very popular at our club and is shot every Tuesday evening.

    Anyone who is interested in "having a go" and can get to our club in Rossendale on a Tuesday evening would be welcome to contact me by PM so I know if you need to borrow a rifle (or use your own) and when you are coming.
    Rossendale Target Shooting Club. Every Tuesday and Thursday evening 7 - 10pm.

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