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    Quote Originally Posted by themariners View Post
    lilgun makes cases stick in my hornet have used general shotgun powder
    Try using 13 grains of black powder a lubed cardboard wad and a 22 20
    Grain gamo lead ball no case extraction sounds like a Winchester 300
    Mag lots of smoke and a ball travelling at 4800 fps

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    Quote Originally Posted by themariners View Post
    Try using 13 grains of black powder a lubed cardboard wad and a 22 20
    Grain gamo lead ball no case extraction sounds like a Winchester 300
    Mag lots of smoke and a ball travelling at 4800 fps
    Asked entirely on the contents of this post, all I can surmise is you're an idiot!
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    Asked entirely on the contents of this post, all I can surmise is you're an idiot!
    You haven’t been asked who cares what you think
    You have to shoot over other peoples land because you own nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by themariners View Post
    You haven’t been asked who cares what you think
    You have to shoot over other peoples land because you own nothing
    Oh contraire, I have been asked just not by you....

    As for shooting over other people's land, what on earth does that have to do with anything? (Rhetorical question)
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    Oh contraire, I have been asked just not by you....

    As for shooting over other people's land, what on earth does that have to do with anything? (Rhetorical question)
    Most feral people that don’t own any land call people
    Idiots when they have never met them so it’s very relevant
    You have also never tried the round or the that bullet weight or even
    Have access to a chrono unless someone lends you one on the lent land you shoot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by themariners View Post
    Most feral people that don’t own any land call people
    Idiots when they have never met them so it’s very relevant
    You have also never tried the round or the that bullet weight or even
    Have access to a chrono unless someone lends you one on the lent land you shoot on
    Oh this is fun!

    You clearly have no proper grasp of the English language or the definition of feral...

    The idiot comment was, by my own admission, based purely on that one post.

    I find the choice of a lead ball over even a cast bullet idiotic in terms of accuracy for shooting live quarry.

    I find the idea that 13 gr of black powder can push a 20 gr projectile plus a cardboard wad to 4800 fps safely, if at all, idiotic.

    I find people posting load data that is a million miles from published or commonly accepted load data with no way of knowing if that is way over pressure, though the stated velocity would certainly suggest so, idiotic. I also find it hugely inappropriate and irresponsible when they suggest other people try said data.

    No, you're right I don't own a chrono, I don't need one as I know accuracy kills and wins comp's not speed - knowing speed is useful for working drops or for long distance, not for shooting pigeons or rats.....sure I could certainly buy one should I choose to do so,but as I have access to a club chrono and several mates with one I've never bothered.

    As for 'borrowing land' yes I guess I do but then the landowners are borrowing my ability to control wildlife in return, so works both ways. I certainly feel pretty happy with what I've achieved so far in life, so owning land, or not, really isn't a biggy....
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    Oh this is fun!

    You clearly have no proper grasp of the English language or the definition of feral...

    The idiot comment was, by my own admission, based purely on that one post.

    I find the choice of a lead ball over even a cast bullet idiotic in terms of accuracy for shooting live quarry.

    I find the idea that 13 gr of black powder can push a 20 gr projectile plus a cardboard wad to 4800 fps safely, if at all, idiotic.

    I find people posting load data that is a million miles from published or commonly accepted load data with no way of knowing if that is way over pressure, though the stated velocity would certainly suggest so, idiotic. I also find it hugely inappropriate and irresponsible when they suggest other people try said data.

    No, you're right I don't own a chrono, I don't need one as I know accuracy kills and wins comp's not speed - knowing speed is useful for working drops or for long distance, not for shooting pigeons or rats.....sure I could certainly buy one should I choose to do so,but as I have access to a club chrono and several mates with one I've never bothered.

    As for 'borrowing land' yes I guess I do but then the landowners are borrowing my ability to control wildlife in return, so works both ways. I certainly feel pretty happy with what I've achieved so far in life, so owning land, or not, really isn't a biggy....
    I have a perfect grasp offered some advice and some dole
    Scroat that hasent a pot to piss in starts taking the piss

    Well mate if you street mapped where I live and where you live you
    Might not think you had done that well in life

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    Quote Originally Posted by themariners View Post
    Try using 13 grains of black powder a lubed cardboard wad and a 22 20
    Grain gamo lead ball no case extraction sounds like a Winchester 300
    Mag lots of smoke and a ball travelling at 4800 fps
    But I doubt it's very accurate

    Your cases are sticking because the loads you're using are deforming them, , unless you're trying for a Darwin award, use a lighter load.

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