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    Ramshot Hunter 46.9 gn-52.1 gn for hornady 58g v-max in 243 ?

    Hi Lads.

    Anyone using the above --------just want conformation im not over charging the cases ???

    The above data is i believe correct, its just that from about 50gn the powder is "just about" level with the case neck, 52gn is only about 7mm down from the top of the case so i suppose the bullet when seated will compress the powder ? --------Does this sound right ?

    At the moment ive only loaded 47gn, 47.5gn, 48gn, 48.5gn, 49gn, 49.5, 50gn, but haven’t fired any--------rifle is a brand new Tikka t3x lite.

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    dave according to quickload 52gn is 104 % fill capacity

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    and in the red on pressure too

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    If you haven't already done so I'd download the data from Ramshot and study it
    http://www.ramshot.com/load-data/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodgyrog View Post
    If you haven't already done so I'd download the data from Ramshot and study it
    http://www.ramshot.com/load-data/
    46.9gn-52.1gn is their data for 58g v-max, hence the question of looking a bit too full ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    46.9gn-52.1gn is their data for 58g v-max, hence the question of looking a bit too full ?

    Dave (warbucks)
    it does say dave it is a compressed load in their online data

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    Quote Originally Posted by loiner1965 View Post
    it does say dave it is a compressed load in their online data
    Thanks Steve.

    Having only loaded 223 with the n120 data you gave me there is plenty of space left, then with this new 243 load there hardly any room left for the bullet , suppose i'm just not used to seeing it like this.

    Looking on the Hawke trajectory data from 3700-3750 fps and zeroed 1" high at 100 yds with Drone Pro height being 2.6" i still have a point blank kill zone of 280-290 yds still keeping in inside 2", so not that important to screw the nuts off it.

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    i would stick to 50 gn dave if its accurate enough....how long is your barrel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loiner1965 View Post
    i would stick to 50 gn dave if its accurate enough....how long is your barrel?
    Standard 20", it looks like ill loose 70 fps per gn, but i should still have enough to do 280 yds.
    I do understand i will loose some fps because the barrel is say 26", but i do need the rifle for walking and shooting from the vehicle.

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    50 gns with your barrel dave should be around 3415 fps on standard seating depth....52gns will give you 3567 fps but watch the pressure as you will be on the limit etc

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    52.1 gn on a 24" barrel is suppose to do 3958 fps.









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    Dave ....I tried 58 after being successful with 70 grn nosler varmints ...58's didn't group well at all for me and was fussy so I wish you well my friend
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    Just an up date on this.

    Been out today and fired one Hornady superformance factory 58g v-max, and one 48gn home loaded hornady 58g v-max.
    The reasoning here was to test my "ants" 300mmx11mm weaver rail drill for the Tikka action myself, im pleased to say its only 4 numbers out of centre on height, and 7 numbers to the right (Drone Pro 10x ), the 48gn home load was well under maximum load, and its was quite near the hole made by the factory load -------so with some tweaking its looking good.

    With my home drilled weaver rail now being ok, ive loctited it on the rifle.
    Next outing will be zeroing and load development.

    Thanks to all your help on this thread Dave (warbucks)
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    great news dave.....you can up it abit as you are around 3500 fps and in the yellow on quickload

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    Just an up date on this.

    Been out today and fired one Hornady superformance factory 58g v-max, and one 48gn home loaded hornady 58g v-max.
    The reasoning here was to test my "ants" 300mmx11mm weaver rail drill for the Tikka action myself, im pleased to say its only 4 numbers out of centre on height, and 7 numbers to the right (Drone Pro 10x ), the 48gn home load was well under maximum load, and its was quite near the hole made by the factory load -------so with some tweaking its looking good.

    With my home drilled weaver rail now being ok, ive loctited it on the rifle.
    Next outing will be zeroing and load development.

    Thanks to all your help on this thread Dave (warbucks)

    Sounds like good results but a contrary voice if I may?

    I would use a faster burning powder.

    I use 45.5 grains of H4895 under a 55 grain BT in my 243 and get 4025 fps.

    I also use a ASE SL5i moderator and can see the muzzle flash under NV.

    With 48 grains of a slower powder, resulting in a MV of 3500, I am guessing the load is lower pressure and there will be more unburnt powder coming out of the muzzle than with my load.

    Are you seeing this flash with your mod and under your NV?
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