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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    I slightly doubt it, nice though it would be. Given all that funny tech stuff that I don't really understand about swept volume, start pressures, TP size...

    Given the expectations of a plinker pistol, the variable HW45 gets away with it, but I doubt a springer rifle can be made that performs to an acceptable level based only on changes to stroke at both 5.9 and 11 ft-lbs.

    If it could, I'd buy it.

    Rhys, might you just be better off spending £50-100 on a .22" Meteor, Diana 27, etc?
    Need a multi PCP to be honest.... I used to use a breaker but often there is the opportunity for a multiple knockdown which just dissapers if you drop your sholdered rifle away to load it.
    I have come up with a solution though and I'll let you all know how it goes!! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithy View Post
    Although its frowned upon a recoilless PCP or co2 .22 pistol with a red dot or laser will work very well at below 10 yds.
    Quote Originally Posted by angrybear View Post
    No pistol should be used for shooting prey except dispatching in a cage trap.
    Pistol, no.

    But a 2240 Ratbuster, once fitted with the shoulder stock (for stability) and steel breech can be most excellent. Or the 2250 Ratcatcher series rifles with reduced power (very quick and easy).

    Not multishot, though (although expensive multishot breech and magazine systems can be had - but then you'll be well and truly into PCP price territory).

    The beauty of the Ratty is that they're very cheap and cheerful and happily fill that "knock about gun" role. Especially if you get a pre-owned 2240 (maybe £50 to £60) and then add the shoulder stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Need a multi PCP to be honest.... I used to use a breaker but often there is the opportunity for a multiple knockdown which just dissapers if you drop your sholdered rifle away to load it.
    I have come up with a solution though and I'll let you all know how it goes!! :-)
    Gamo/ASI Paratrooper/Gamatic repeater? (Tried it, not a great idea.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Gamo/ASI Paratrooper/Gamatic repeater? (Tried it, not a great idea.)
    Tried what? Sorry if I'm being dumb!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Tried what? Sorry if I'm being dumb!!
    Not at all.

    Back in the 70s-early 80s, the break barrel ASI Paratrooper repeater (aka Gamatic or something like that) was the only repeating air rifle that was cheap and widely available. If you were a teenage ninja, you could rapid fire it from the shoulder without lowering the butt. Was it a good barn gun? No. Because it was bloody inaccurate. You could hose down tin cans like a slo-mo version of the St Valentine's Day massacre, but could not reliably put ten rounds into a rat brain size target consistently at normal barn ranges, because the loading mechanism deformed the pellets, even the Gamo ones that were meant to work in it.

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    PM me your address and I'll send you a couple of dozen RWS Hollowpoints gratis. They work surprisingly well in my Ultra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Not at all.

    Back in the 70s-early 80s, the break barrel ASI Paratrooper repeater (aka Gamatic or something like that) was the only repeating air rifle that was cheap and widely available. If you were a teenage ninja, you could rapid fire it from the shoulder without lowering the butt. Was it a good barn gun? No. Because it was bloody inaccurate. You could hose down tin cans like a slo-mo version of the St Valentine's Day massacre, but could not reliably put ten rounds into a rat brain size target consistently at normal barn ranges, because the loading mechanism deformed the pellets, even the Gamo ones that were meant to work in it.
    Ahhhhh..... I get you now. Pellet mashers a?!
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    Rhys,I swapped from .177 to .22 and have my rapid set at 9.5ftlb, I use hobby flats for all my barn/stable work with zero thru's. But Im just looking at buying a .25 P15 as Ive had a bash with a buddies new one, its realy good and sensible money

    I swapped due to ricochet's as theres expensive machinery and livestock to think about, plus I can take ferals off beams with no chance of roof damage

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    Just thought I'd add to this and it sort of echoes Chris's comments above.
    I picked up an old .22 Webley raider 2 shot a few months ago. Cosmetically challenged but after inspection and testing, holds air well and pretty consistent accuracy wise.
    I'd sort of already decided it would be used as a barn rifle and last night it got its first outing on some ferals a farmer had asked me to clear.

    The power was around 11 with mid weight pellets so I tried JSB rs over the chrono and it was showing just under 10ft/lbs.
    Some group testing decided that I'd use these.

    Did the job perfectly last night with no over penetration and the ability to get a reasonably quick second shot off too. The light pellets deliver all their energy into the quarry and dont exit.

    Shabby as it is, its earned a place in the cabinet and it cost peanuts to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Just watched an aeac video on long range .177 pellet stability. He used some predetor polymags and it got me thinking..... The Daystate hasn't sold, the BSA is broke, as am I & I'm currently without a pcp (don't like using a gun I'm trying to sell). So I'm considering re-scoping the DS and trying some of the above pellets or other various hollow point variations for the farm. Might even service it & wind the power back to 9.5/10 just to slow them down a bit more.
    What is people's impression of the various "hunting hollows" ,"flat heads" & what I call "spiked hollows".... Any recommendations in .177?
    And is there any other tips I could use for a .177 rat & bird rig?
    Thanks Rhys
    It is no different to any other pellet/barrel match. There may be the usual suspects but until you load and send, you wont have a clue what works in your barrel.

    The other issue with HP and that genre of hunting pellet is how far they can go within a group before the accuracy drops off.

    My HW100 likes Bisley Pest Control...good to 30 yards max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    PM me your address and I'll send you a couple of dozen RWS Hollowpoints gratis. They work surprisingly well in my Ultra
    Just seen this... Thanks!!
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    I've got a tin of BSA Interceptor hollow point .177 sat here doing nothing 7.87gn, yours if you want to try them.

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    Myself and long time shooting buddy used RWS Squirrel and nothing else for almost 40 years, they were very accurate at all ranges and provided some great stopping power, sadly, they are no longer made and were just a little bit heavier than the Hobby, we have a few tins left and what we'll turn to when they run out I don't know. We bought a batch of 100 tins between us at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrybear View Post
    I've got a tin of BSA Interceptor hollow point .177 sat here doing nothing 7.87gn, yours if you want to try them.
    Great.. I'm up for that.. you going to the bash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    Great.. I'm up for that.. you going to the bash?
    No, sorry not my thing, PM your addy I'll post them.

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