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    Yana,

    I do hope people don't think I am bashing JSB

    JSB pellets are still my pellets of choice for my HFT rifles - my TX200 shoots the Express & Exact sublimely, as do my other Field springers

    My vintage match springers also shoot JSB field pellets superbly.

    I also use the JSB Match Green & Orange in many of my 10m rifles & pistols, and for me, I have found these shoot as well as my R10 Pistol & Qiang Yuan Match pellets.

    Have fun & a good weekend

    Best regards

    Russ

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    You put a lot of time into weighing and printing the results for us to see Russ - thanks for making the effort as most of us don’t have access to the equipment needed to make such exacting analyses.
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    I did the experiments with the P34; the Meisterkugeln and Gecos both grouped at around 12-15 mm, but the R10s were much better, 10 pellets in a 7-8mm hole. I can't weigh them to check for variance, but I know what I will carry on buying from now on...
    Too many guns, or not enough time?

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    Modski,

    Yup - the only real way we have to assess the pellets performance is to shoot them in the relevant pistol & rifle

    I find the whole of this stuff most fascinating

    There seems to be no simple measurements we can do that will predict the actual real world results - perhaps we live in the Matrix ?

    Have fun & a good Sunday

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    Russ

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    Bob,

    My pleasure

    It is a shame we cannot include images in the Target/Competition section, as the histogram shows the results in a much more accessible way.

    Have fun & a good Sunday

    Best regards

    Russ

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    Dont worry, I just wondered why S100 was excluded. I checked the JSB website, it seems that they are no longer their match topline. Theyre now their heavier matchpellet whereas the Premiumline took its place as toplevel matchpellet.
    Didnt even know they changed till yesterday (AGW piece)
    I use JSB Exact in 99% of my 'hunting guns' and classics as well, I use the JSB match in all the Tau 7s.
    Yes they often are deformed but they still perform best/very well
    R10 I only use in the LG300. The other matchrifles all prefer domes
    ATB,
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    "Probably The Worlds Most Accurate Airgun Ammo"

    Not all .22 pellets have the claimed weight printed on the tins - such as Webley .22 AccuPell or Webley .22 PowaPell. These show no claimed weight at all - this is not very handy when trying to establish an airguns power when using them!

    Both are marked as 5.5mm but no other information is given.

    Likewise with .177 Crossman AccuPell pellets (presumably these Crossman pellets are the same as Webley AccuPell pellets?)

    Accupell pellets (both Crossman and Webley branded) have printed on their tins "Probably The Worlds Most Accurate Airgun Ammo".

    It would be good to know what they actually weigh, what variation the pellets have, and then of course to see just how accurate they are in performance too!

    I do know of a few (non related) spring powered air rifle shooters who swear by them - so maybe they are good ?- but we still need to know the weights to check the power they provide when used in airguns that are close to the 12ft/lb legal limit.
    Last edited by zooma; 02-05-2018 at 11:35 AM.
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    Bob,

    The 0.22" pellets I have weighed ( in lots of 100) are :

    Air Arms Diablo Field - Stated 16 gr., actual average 15.9 gr., (heaviest - lowest = 0.5 gr.)

    JSB Jumbo RS - Stated 13.4 gr., actual average 13.4 gr., (heaviest - lowest = 0.5 gr.)

    JSB Jumbo Express - Stated 14.4 gr., actual average 14.3 gr., (heaviest - lowest = 0.5 gr.)

    JSB Jumbo Exact - Stated 15.9 gr., actual average 15.9 gr., (heaviest - lowest = 0.7 gr.)

    (The results are in the spreadsheet I sent you.)

    I have still not heard back from JSB with regards to their 'optimistic' weight tolerance claim for their Premium line of pellets - they state +/- 1 mg., I found spreads of 6 to 7 mg.

    Have fun

    Best regards

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    Not all .22 pellets have the claimed weight printed on the tins - such as Webley .22 AccuPell or Webley .22 PowaPell. These show no claimed weight at all - this is not very handy when trying to establish an airguns power when using them!

    Both are marked as 5.5mm but no other information is given.

    Likewise with .177 Crossman AccuPell pellets (presumably these Crossman pellets are the same as Webley AccuPell pellets?)

    Accupell pellets (both Crossman and Webley branded) have printed on their tins "Probably The Worlds Most Accurate Airgun Ammo".

    It would be good to know what they actually weigh, what variation the pellets have, and then of course to see just how accurate they are in performance too!

    I do know of a few (non related) spring powered air rifle shooters who swear by them - so maybe they are good ?- but we still need to know the weights to check the power they provide when used in airguns that are close to the 12ft/lb legal limit.
    I have now found the weight of these .22 pellets online:-

    .22 Webley AccuPell = 14.3g.
    .22 Webley AccuPell FT = 14.66g
    .22 Webley VMXPell = 14.66 g
    .22 Webley PowaPell = 14.3g.
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    Last edited by zooma; 02-05-2018 at 07:33 PM.
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