Silly Prices - just what is the point?

[Jesim1]

We all like to maximise what we get for a gun or any other item - generally at least, but there seems to be a trend of people literally wasting other peoples time by advertising items which can almost be bought cheaper new than second hand!

Ultimately it's up to the seller to decide a price - but for goodness sake be realistic or others just think you are wasting their time

So many threads of late have £600/700/800 guns within £50 off a new one? - If you paid over the odds for your gun in the first place then that is your fault and you should have shopped about - don't expect others to pick up the tab, or save £50 by buying without the scope shown in the picture when the scope on the gun is only £50 new anyway!

I found several examples in gun star of new guns only a small amount more than some of the stuff advertised on here. They are just a couple of examples I found within minuets of looking, so I'm sure you could get another £50 off with a few phone calls to actually get them cheaper new than second hand!

I suppose the only consolation is the posters have no chance of selling the stuff, but it's frustrating feeling you are wasting your time even clicking on the post of an unrealistic seller.

Please do your homework and sell at around the market value and you will get a good or reasonable deal - or don't and be prepared to bump it endlessly asking "why has this not sold" - because I'm telling you now!

And yes, there will always be an exception - a special edition/a competition winner/a highly modified or desirable gun - but your run of the mill bog standard stuff has a rough price, stick to around that and save us all the frustration.

James

[lensman57]

We all like to maximise what we get for a gun or any other item - generally at least, but there seems to be a trend of people literally wasting other peoples time by advertising items which can almost be bought cheaper new than second hand!

Ultimately it's up to the seller to decide a price - but for goodness sake be realistic or others just think you are wasting their time

So many threads of late have £600/700/800 guns within £50 off a new one? - If you paid over the odds for your gun in the first place then that is your fault and you should have shopped about - don't expect others to pick up the tab, or save £50 by buying without the scope shown in the picture when the scope on the gun is only £50 new anyway!

I found several examples in gun star of new guns only a small amount more than some of the stuff advertised on here. They are just a couple of examples I found within minuets of looking, so I'm sure you could get another £50 off with a few phone calls to actually get them cheaper new than second hand!

I suppose the only consolation is the posters have no chance of selling the stuff, but it's frustrating feeling you are wasting your time even clicking on the post of an unrealistic seller.

Please do your homework and sell at around the market value and you will get a good or reasonable deal - or don't and be prepared to bump it endlessly asking "why has this not sold" - because I'm telling you now!

And yes, there will always be an exception - a special edition/a competition winner/a highly modified or desirable gun - but your run of the mill bog standard stuff has a rough price, stick to around that and save us all the frustration.

James

Not totally relating to guns but a lot of people ask for silly money for cameras and lenses too. Recently I was watching bids on a Canon 16 35 F4L IS USM with a buy now option. The final bid was higher than the asking price for the same lens in the same condtion at a very reputable specialist shop in Scotland .

A.G

[angrybear]

We all like to maximise what we get for a gun or any other item - generally at least, but there seems to be a trend of people literally wasting other peoples time by advertising items which can almost be bought cheaper new than second hand!

Ultimately it's up to the seller to decide a price - but for goodness sake be realistic or others just think you are wasting their time

So many threads of late have £600/700/800 guns within £50 off a new one? - If you paid over the odds for your gun in the first place then that is your fault and you should have shopped about - don't expect others to pick up the tab, or save £50 by buying without the scope shown in the picture when the scope on the gun is only £50 new anyway!

I found several examples in gun star of new guns only a small amount more than some of the stuff advertised on here. They are just a couple of examples I found within minuets of looking, so I'm sure you could get another £50 off with a few phone calls to actually get them cheaper new than second hand!

I suppose the only consolation is the posters have no chance of selling the stuff, but it's frustrating feeling you are wasting your time even clicking on the post of an unrealistic seller.

Please do your homework and sell at around the market value and you will get a good or reasonable deal - or don't and be prepared to bump it endlessly asking "why has this not sold" - because I'm telling you now!

And yes, there will always be an exception - a special edition/a competition winner/a highly modified or desirable gun - but your run of the mill bog standard stuff has a rough price, stick to around that and save us all the frustration.

James

While undoubtedly true, I have to say "well then go & buy the new one for a few £ more"

The asking price is just that an asking price if you say you can get £50 off new price the same should be true of the used asking price, plus of course someone else might live near an expensive gun shop & think that it's reasonable value.

[secretagentmole]

I have seen rifles advertised for over new price on freeads, usually the ubiquitous B2....

[Baxterbasics]

ANYTHING is only worth what somebody is PREPARED to pay for it.

The End

[barrel]

We all like to maximise what we get for a gun or any other item - generally at least, but there seems to be a trend of people literally wasting other peoples time by advertising items which can almost be bought cheaper new than second hand!

Ultimately it's up to the seller to decide a price - but for goodness sake be realistic or others just think you are wasting their time

So many threads of late have £600/700/800 guns within £50 off a new one? - If you paid over the odds for your gun in the first place then that is your fault and you should have shopped about - don't expect others to pick up the tab, or save £50 by buying without the scope shown in the picture when the scope on the gun is only £50 new anyway!

I found several examples in gun star of new guns only a small amount more than some of the stuff advertised on here. They are just a couple of examples I found within minuets of looking, so I'm sure you could get another £50 off with a few phone calls to actually get them cheaper new than second hand!

I suppose the only consolation is the posters have no chance of selling the stuff, but it's frustrating feeling you are wasting your time even clicking on the post of an unrealistic seller.

Please do your homework and sell at around the market value and you will get a good or reasonable deal - or don't and be prepared to bump it endlessly asking "why has this not sold" - because I'm telling you now!

And yes, there will always be an exception - a special edition/a competition winner/a highly modified or desirable gun - but your run of the mill bog standard stuff has a rough price, stick to around that and save us all the frustration.

James

I bet you don't get frustrated clicking on an add and seeing something that is way under priced as sometimes happens, without looking at all the adds you wont snag a bargain. At the end of the day if you don't want to buy something then don't its your choice.

On a side note what really annoys me is when someone has something advertised at a superb price and still people make stupidly low offers, now that is taking the Michael.



Kindest regards

Barrel

[MrGrumpy]

I missed a Venom 77 in a custom stock for £500 haunts me still

[DJP]

We all like to maximise what we get for a gun or any other item - generally at least, but there seems to be a trend of people literally wasting other peoples time by advertising items which can almost be bought cheaper new than second hand!

Ultimately it's up to the seller to decide a price - but for goodness sake be realistic or others just think you are wasting their time

So many threads of late have £600/700/800 guns within £50 off a new one? - If you paid over the odds for your gun in the first place then that is your fault and you should have shopped about - don't expect others to pick up the tab, or save £50 by buying without the scope shown in the picture when the scope on the gun is only £50 new anyway!

I found several examples in gun star of new guns only a small amount more than some of the stuff advertised on here. They are just a couple of examples I found within minuets of looking, so I'm sure you could get another £50 off with a few phone calls to actually get them cheaper new than second hand!

I suppose the only consolation is the posters have no chance of selling the stuff, but it's frustrating feeling you are wasting your time even clicking on the post of an unrealistic seller.

Please do your homework and sell at around the market value and you will get a good or reasonable deal - or don't and be prepared to bump it endlessly asking "why has this not sold" - because I'm telling you now!

And yes, there will always be an exception - a special edition/a competition winner/a highly modified or desirable gun - but your run of the mill bog standard stuff has a rough price, stick to around that and save us all the frustration.

James

Couldn't agree more.

I've pretty much given up looking at the Sales section: Too many used guns at new or nearly new prices.

I like the semi threatening messages included in some ads, too: "Advertised elsewhere" or "If it doesn't sell by the weekend, I'm taking it down".

Who cares? No one's buying your over priced tat.

There's only one reason something won't sell: it's too expensive.

The end.

[brian747]

common sense tells me that some thing that was new and is in top condition and being sold,
i start at 2/3rds of the new price if its an item i am selling, buts thats just my opinion.
atb brian

[flyingfish]

I think a lot of people are taken in by the big adverts. Buy this gun, bag, scope and bipod here. Rrp 2000 all yours for 1500. Then when they discover that shooting isn't for them their advert is based on the Rrp. Net realising that the offer wasn't special

[skyblue465]

Couldn't agree more.

I've pretty much given up looking at the Sales section: Too many used guns at new or nearly new prices.

I like the semi threatening messages included in some ads, too: "Advertised elsewhere" or "If it doesn't sell by the weekend, I'm taking it down".

Who cares? No one's buying your over priced tat.

There's only one reason something won't sell: it's too expensive.

The end.

“Advertised elsewhere” (Usually followed by)..”therefore I have the right to remove
from auction at any time”.
ALWAYS makes my blood boil on ! (Usually on bike/car listings).

Firstly,.. if the listing has bids and any reserve is met, they ABDOLUTELY DO NOT
have the right to remove according to rules! (As with any “normal auction).
Feels like almost every vehicle listing seems to have this nowdays . They all seem to follow
each other like uneducated sheep!

Secondly, (And here’s the thing)...
What it ACTUALLY means is,.. somewhere in the listing is the sellers, (“Hidden”) phone number, so if
the buyer calls, they can do a deal outside and he will remove the item without paying any fees.
Stating it was “lost or broken”.
(Free advert!)

I’ve lost count of the amount of things I’ve been bidding on only to
discover the listing has “mysteriously” disappeared!

(Just discovered that the forum computer has deleted any direct reference
to “that” big auction site).

[Jonjon79]

Couldn't agree more.

I've pretty much given up looking at the Sales section: Too many used guns at new or nearly new prices.

I like the semi threatening messages included in some ads, too: "Advertised elsewhere" or "If it doesn't sell by the weekend, I'm taking it down".

Who cares? No one's buying your over priced tat.

There's only one reason something won't sell: it's too expensive.

The end.

Oi, I do that

To be fair though, I put 'Also advertised elsewhere' because I'll advertise something for sale on here and 1 other forum and, maybe freeads as well.

It's just my way of trying to head off any potential bad feeling if someone elsewhere said 'I'll have it' first.

[MartynB]

common sense tells me that some thing that was new and is in top condition and being sold, I start at 2/3rds of the new price if its an item i am selling, buts thats just my opinion.
atb brian

I would tend to agree with this as a starting point

[Jesim1]

My whole point is that if you click on a link for a gun you fancy then you expect it may tempt you to buy if the price is right and it's local/postable/collectable. If you wanted to pay full retail you would not go on the classifieds here and just pick it up from a RFD with a full warranty and back up. So it a bit of a let down and waste of effort only to find things being overpriced at near new rates.

A wise man once said the fairest deal is a price that neither part is happy with, but both are willing to accept - win/win, not win/lose

James

[angrybear]

My whole point is that if you click on a link for a gun you fancy then you expect it may tempt you to buy if the price is right and it's local/postable/collectable. If you wanted to pay full retail you would not go on the classifieds here and just pick it up from a RFD with a full warranty and back up. So it a bit of a let down and waste of effort only to find things being overpriced at near new rates.

A wise man once said the fairest deal is a price that neither part is happy with, but both are willing to accept - win/win, not win/lose

James

Totally agree with you, so you contact the seller & make exactly that point to them, before making a reasonable offer which they can either accept or refuse.