Originally Posted by
ChrisC
Funny eh?. VHTV are fully aware from last time that the vast majority of sensible shooters wouldn't attempt to pull of those sort of shots, let alone post the evidence in the public domain. They have the potential for a damn good Youtube channel but it's spoiled by this single topic.
Chris the majority of shots arent capable so yes they dont take the shots. But again Si and his kit are proven more than capable and not just once but many times over. I can vouch this, I have shot with Si enough too make an informed decision. The channel is also a good channel and its theirs to do with what they wish not to conform to others opinions.
Originally Posted by
ChrisC
Apologies that you feel that way but you seem to have totally misunderstood why these Youtube vids are commented on by the BBS. If we don't self-police then the Gov and Anti's will do it for us. Licensing might never happen (despite what Davy thinks
) and if it does it won't really impact me as i have a gun cabinet, club and comps to show i have need of an air rifle. Licensing will more than likely impact all those (potentially millions) that like to plink at home....bit unfair dontcha think?
And who appointed you the Policing force to police things?
Again the shot was safe, there was sufficient energy to dispatch and finally there was the accuracy to complete the task in hand.
I also feel that Anti`s dont want anyone to have a gun of any kind under any circumstance, club, safe, comps or pest control are irrelevant to them. They simply have a fear of guns which to them covers everything from air pistols through to large calibre centre-fire. They would argue you have no NEED for a air weapon of any kind despite what you stated, they would have paint balling banned for fear of it glorifying violence and the same with airsoft.
Originally Posted by
ChrisC
Did you introduce yourself to me as i would have said the same to your face (or Si's). No warrior here
. What comp was it? Long range hunting with sub 12ftlb is wrong, posting on a platform for all to see is just stupid. Are we really going to dance the dance again?....the last time this cropped up there was overwhelming condemnation by the BBS members.
Even though you replied to Rich i'd like to raise a point. Shooting high into the trees at long range. More chance of wind deflection and a miss.....where does the pellet land? All well and good until someone looses an eye.
Honestly?...really? Then you don't know me and don't realise that those on this thread (and the last) know more about shooting in the wind than you,me, Si and Davy put together. They are saying the same as me. I fully expect (like last time) that the fan boys will be along but i'm just going to say this again. BTW i wasn't the OP.
LONG RANGE HUNTING WITH SUB 12ftlb IS WRONG.
PUTTING THOSE SHOTS INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN IS STUPID.
No Chris I dont know you and I dont need to either and yes Honestly and Really.
The video shows a one shot, one kill so quite clearly the wind was assessed correctly.
"the last time this cropped up there was overwhelming condemnation by the BBS members" And who are the BBS members in the grand scheme of things. No insult to anyone but this sounds like some assumed governing body, not appointed, not voted and not official.
"Shooting high into the trees at long range. More chance of wind deflection and a miss.....where does the pellet land? All well and good until someone looses an eye." Yes more chance of wind deflection and so more requirement of skill, knowledge and understanding, but again this is something assessed by Si at the time, as I said your passing judgement on a situation that you weren't present at and you are not in possession of facts / knowledge. The pellet fall out is on the farm land of which Si has permission to shoot over.
Someone loose an eye...... I would argue there's as much if not more chance of that coming about at a FT/HFT club shooting metal plates at close range.
Long range hunting (which is undefined distance currently) is fine as long as you have: 1. The energy required, 2. The repeatable accuracy to under take the shot. Si meets both of these requirements. 35yard max hunting range with a sub 12ftlb air rifle is absolute hog wash. Max hunting ranges are formed on: Equipment quality, Sufficient energy to not cause unnecessary suffering, Skill to deliver the shot and the weather conditions not a hard set fixed range.
So again Chris I ask, You appear to have an axe to grind. You know what you will see if you watch the VHTV video`s so why dont you stop watching them if you dont like what you see?
Your moaning on here isn't going to stop it or alter it.
Long range shots are always going to be taken. Some by folk that shouldn't as them and their kit arent upto the job, but on the flip side of it they will also be successfully taken by those with the skill and kit to pull it off. Your not going to change it. Ironically I know of a fox shooter who has videos on youtube and produces DVD`s and attends gamefairs with a stand promoting what he does and he`s taken flack for shooting them too close..... 
With any hobby not just shooting you will get high performers who get criticism from those who cant match or come near so you will get the name calling and mud slinging.
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