Do I want a .177...?

[maximus]

Hi, the 98 is a good choice for targets in 177 cal. They easily make 11+ftlbs so nothing too frantic going on inside to make harsh. Personally I am not keen on the adjustable stock from an aesthetic point of view and would look at a 95 with the same sleeved barrel which are only available from Veranderhaus Schneider in Germany by mail order. If you go that route it will require an export spring to fitted when it gets here though.

Regards Max

[45flint]

The more guns I get I like 22 in a rifle, I think less harsh in a springer but another simple reason is the pellets are larger and less fidley to load.

[gingernut]

The answer to your question generally is yes.
The .22 versions of most spring rifles are easier to cock and nicer to shoot than .177 models.

There are exceptions eg My Walther LGV Comp Ultra.
The 98 is a very good rifle and it’s weight tames the .177 version a bit.

[MikeHW45]

The answer to your question generally is yes.
The .22 versions of most spring rifles are easier to cock and nicer to shoot than .177 models.

There are exceptions eg My Walther LGV Comp Ultra.
The 98 is a very good rifle and it’s weight tames the .177 version a bit.

Absolutely, I love my 98 in .177. I've put a delrin guide and top hat in as it was a bit twangy from new. The weighted barrel definitely makes it a lovely rifle to shoot. One of the other chaps on here has short stroked his 98 and that is very nice to shoot with a quick but not overly harsh shot cycle.

[Blackrider]

Had a very nice .177 Cal. 98 set within a left handed CS800 Thumbhole stock and it shot very well, not harsh at all !
It eventually went like so many other airguns to fund something else that I happened to be chasing at the time but it is one of the few guns that occasionally I regret parting with.

[Gareth W-B]

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As more action inertia needs to be generated to propel a .177 pellet around the 11ft.lb mark than is needed to propel a .22 pellet to the same power lever (best way to explain this is the physics of how much energy do you need to exert to throw a light cotton wool ball twenty feet compared to the energy you would need to exert to throw a pebble the same distance), a lighter rifle will absorb less of the .177 inertia energy than a heavier one.

This is why in my not inconsiderable experience that I proffer light rifles like the BSA Mercury, Airsporter and Super Sport (plus all the BSA Lightening derivatives) are simply ghastly to shoot in .177 compared to the same guns in .22 (Webly Vulcans and all derrivatives therein fit this model, imho, too).

Upper end quality -- and more weighty -- springer air rifles like the HW97K, HW80/80K, HW77/77K, HW98, AA TX200/200HC and AA ProSports are more than capable of absorbing and naturally damping down the aforementioned extra inertia generated by full hop .177 actions however, which is why ALL as I have detailed in this paragraph are such a joy to shoot in any calibre sub 12ft.lb (my very personal favourite off the list being the AATX200HC .177 ).

So go on, treat yourself, and get yourself a 'Super Springer' off the above list in .177, as you will not regret it (but do remember to use a Dampa mount for your scope, too, as I swear by these for all springers). Hope this helps? Atb: G.

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[eyebull]

Can't argue with that Gareth.
I think carbine barrels on .177's don't help either as it's another power drain that requires the action to work just a bit harder for the same result. My .177 lightning was appalling for all those reasons (and more, but don't get me started again).

My .177 95k is a bit better behaved (but doesn't shoot as nice as my .22 95), and my .177 LGV C U is very very well behaved indeed, but then it weighs a ton. A 98 should be a nice compromise.

As long as you don't try to have a tiny little featherweight carbine doing 11.99 ft/lb, you can have a nicely shooting .177.

[harvey_s]

So go on, treat yourself, and get (but do remember to use a Dampa mount for your scope, too, as I swear by these for all springers). Hope this helps? Atb: G.

Hi Gareth
Do not todays glass etched reticles negate the need for something like this?

[WILBA]

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As more action inertia needs to be generated to propel a .177 pellet around the 11ft.lb mark than is needed to propel a .22 pellet to the same power lever (best way to explain this is the physics of how much energy do you need to exert to throw a light cotton wool ball twenty feet compared to the energy you would need to exert to throw a pebble the same distance), a lighter rifle will absorb less of the .177 inertia energy than a heavier one.

This is why in my not inconsiderable experience that I proffer light rifles like the BSA Mercury, Airsporter and Super Sport (plus all the BSA Lightening derivatives) are simply ghastly to shoot in .177 compared to the same guns in .22 (Webly Vulcans and all derrivatives therein fit this model, imho, too).

Upper end quality -- and more weighty -- springer air rifles like the HW97K, HW80/80K, HW77/77K, HW98, AA TX200/200HC and AA ProSports are more than capable of absorbing and naturally damping down the aforementioned extra inertia generated by full hop .177 actions however, which is why ALL as I have detailed in this paragraph are such a joy to shoot in any calibre sub 12ft.lb (my very personal favourite off the list being the AATX200HC .177 ).

So go on, treat yourself, and get yourself a 'Super Springer' off the above list in .177, as you will not regret it (but do remember to use a Dampa mount for your scope, too, as I swear by these for all springers). Hope this helps? Atb: G.

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Thats why all my springers are fitted with simmons pro air scopes. I have about 7 of the 6-18x40 for some reason lol.

[WILBA]

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As more action inertia needs to be generated to propel a .177 pellet around the 11ft.lb mark than is needed to propel a .22 pellet to the same power lever (best way to explain this is the physics of how much energy do you need to exert to throw a light cotton wool ball twenty feet compared to the energy you would need to exert to throw a pebble the same distance), a lighter rifle will absorb less of the .177 inertia energy than a heavier one.

This is why in my not inconsiderable experience that I proffer light rifles like the BSA Mercury, Airsporter and Super Sport (plus all the BSA Lightening derivatives) are simply ghastly to shoot in .177 compared to the same guns in .22 (Webly Vulcans and all derrivatives therein fit this model, imho, too).

Upper end quality -- and more weighty -- springer air rifles like the HW97K, HW80/80K, HW77/77K, HW98, AA TX200/200HC and AA ProSports are more than capable of absorbing and naturally damping down the aforementioned extra inertia generated by full hop .177 actions however, which is why ALL as I have detailed in this paragraph are such a joy to shoot in any calibre sub 12ft.lb (my very personal favourite off the list being the AATX200HC .177 ).

So go on, treat yourself, and get yourself a 'Super Springer' off the above list in .177, as you will not regret it (but do remember to use a Dampa mount for your scope, too, as I swear by these for all springers). Hope this helps? Atb: G.

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My .177cal prosport i sold this week was very accurare in .177cal. Its just that bloody uncomfortable underlever i hated to the point i had to sell it. Had a go of the friend who bought my prosport tx200hc in .177cal. Dam that gun was just as sweet to use and a pleasure to cock compared to the prosport. Guess i might buy one to add to my collection.