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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post
    But mk3s still beat the LGU in competitions but even if you are right that's 1point to the LGU and 100 points to the TX
    Shoot both side by side and you will see that i am right ,
    Personally i prefer the TX, though an lgu won the british springer championships this year Field Target class

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    Shoot both side by side and you will see that i am right ,
    Personally i prefer the TX, though an lgu won the british springer championships this year Field Target class
    Interesting I didn't know that
    Any links you can post?

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    Hi,

    My gun is .177 and I have opened the TP to 3.2mm
    I may well buy a TX200 MkIII just so I can compare over an afternoon side by side.
    I'll then sell the worst gun.

    I don't know anybody with air guns around here and as yet, I'm not in a club. I've been shooting for 30 years, but my last air rifle club was 3 years ago, I was all HFT PCP, that club closed 2 years ago.

    For the cost of the loss on one gun, would be the loss of money wasted tuning up this one.

    I can feel myself moving back to my original direction of an HW77 25mm piston and a full tune problem. This is why I just bought the LGU and got on with it, it was getting to problematic and too many options. The gun is grouping well, but the recoil is more than I'd like. When people say sight picture, there is NO WAY I'd be able to see the impact (let alone flight) of the pellet. It's a case of aim, shoot, recompose, see how you did.

    I live in Cwmbran South Wales. I'd be more than happy to travel (up to 2 hours each way) to somebody that would be happy to see if my gun is 'normal' or could be better. If anybody can help me, I'm very much up for that. I'm happy to go to your club so as not to expose your home address to a tool stranger!

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    A lot of people end up chasing their tails for a shot cycle that 'feels' right, and ultimately sacrifice the thing that matters most i.e accuracy.
    Just because something feels nice to shoot, it doesn't necessarily follow that it will hit what its aimed at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebull View Post
    A lot of people end up chasing their tails for a shot cycle that 'feels' right, and ultimately sacrifice the thing that matters most i.e accuracy.
    Just because something feels nice to shoot, it doesn't necessarily follow that it will hit what its aimed at.
    This.

    I had a V-Glided HW97K which had quite a bit of recoil compared to my TX200 with the full works (shortened transfer port, lightened piston, etc).
    But the HW97K grouped fantastic, still my best groups to date with a spring rifle.

    Wish I never sold it.

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    I'm shooting targets and tight 10 shot holes is everything to me. I'm going to start washing and lubing my pellets, so that's how far I'm going to go. I shoot competition 22 rimfire with open sights, so every point counts for me. The recoil matters greatly to me and the resulting grouping!

    The LGU is a nice gun, I've fixed the trigger with a mod I did and opened the TP to 3.2mm to preserve the spring, but I keep reading the TX is a better gun that groups well. So I need to try one for myself. I was talking to a shop in the Leeds-Sheffield area that is well stocked and hand a shooting range to test the guns before you buy. I ended up just buying the LGU last week as it was getting messy trying to chose over forums and the net!

    It looks like I'll need to got to that shop and shoot a TX (8 hour drive there and back!) The local shop I bought the LGU from last week were of very little help. I think they simply want you to buy all three, test them and sell off the other two second hand.

    Note,

    The shop was Redbeck, I remember now! I will ring them and sort out a plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post
    Interesting I didn't know that
    Any links you can post?
    https://www.britishrecoilingchampion...c-2018-winner/

    You will have to take my word for it that it was an lgu, I was there awesome shooting from John only missing two, I only managed 28 this time around .

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebull View Post
    A lot of people end up chasing their tails for a shot cycle that 'feels' right, and ultimately sacrifice the thing that matters most i.e accuracy.
    Just because something feels nice to shoot, it doesn't necessarily follow that it will hit what its aimed at.
    Very true , you ideally want both, but being able to see the shot impact is a huge benefit when shooting competitions outdoors as you can see what the conditions are doing to the flight of the pellet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    Very true , you ideally want both, but being able to see the shot impact is a huge benefit when shooting competitions outdoors as you can see what the conditions are doing to the flight of the pellet.
    I have no chance what so ever of seeing the pellet fight with this LGU, this is why I'm trying to tune it. I was the one Nick, that was asking you about the LGU yesterday. The gun is quite hold sensitive, but I have nothing to compare it to, so I may have to buy a TX200 and just shoot them both one day and sell one at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbeam View Post
    I'm shooting targets and tight 10 shot holes is everything to me. I'm going to start washing and lubing my pellets, so that's how far I'm going to go. I shoot competition 22 rimfire with open sights, so every point counts for me. The recoil matters greatly to me and the resulting grouping!

    The LGU is a nice gun, I've fixed the trigger with a mod I did and opened the TP to 3.2mm to preserve the spring, but I keep reading the TX is a better gun that groups well. So I need to try one for myself. I was talking to a shop in the Leeds-Sheffield area that is well stocked and hand a shooting range to test the guns before you buy. I ended up just buying the LGU last week as it was getting messy trying to chose over forums and the net!

    It looks like I'll need to got to that shop and shoot a TX (8 hour drive there and back!) The local shop I bought the LGU from last week were of very little help. I think they simply want you to buy all three, test them and sell off the other two second hand.

    Note,

    The shop was Redbeck, I remember now! I will ring them and sort out a plan.
    It sounds like you're well committed to getting the very best out of whichever springer you finally decide to live with long term.

    Regarding the shop, surely there must be somewhere closer where you could get to try the TX?

    I think Sandwell Field Sports would have such a facility? Anywhere closer? Or how about visiting a club? Again, I don't know your area, but two which would spring to mind would be The Greyhound at Coventry or, and most definitely worth a visit, the Nomads Club near Worcester. Many experienced springer shooters there from the tough anvil of HFT, and those boys know all about hold sensiyivity etc. And, as an added bonus, you'll most likely get to meet and speak with Jim Tyler.
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    Hi TonyL,

    I live in Cardiff more or less. SFS is about an hour and a half each way. The only reason I say Redbeck is because somebody suggested them to me, they have a range, will allow you to shoot before buying and were helpful on the phone a few weeks ago, but they are a days drive away!

    My local club was Tree Tops, but now closed. I'm trying to get into Quarry Hunters, but that is taking some time and even if I do get there, I can't just rock up and ask to try some guys gun. Infact, I can't just turn up cold to any club and ask to try a gun, it's just not the done thing.

    Every shop I've asked so far say no to trying before buying. The one I bought the LGU from said to go to Tondu (north of Cardiff) to try a TX and just ask, that was their answer rather than helping a customer standing at the counter. You'd never buy a car with out test driving it or buy a TV without seeing the picture, yet you have to buy a gun without shooting it, it's very odd.

    I think most shops are just there to shift boxes, the shop I bought the LGU from were utterly clueless to differing recoil between the LGU and TX when I asked today. The first guy on the phone I asked said he thought he could help, but didn't know! I said you either know about recoil or not! He got somebody else to talk to me. I think people find me hard work, but I'm really not, if you know what your talking about, I'm easy. If you don't know and try to fob me off, I'm very hard work, but that always seems to be 'my' fault when a sales guy is clueless. Must be this age of denial we live in!

    This is why I was hoping to meet somebody here sympathetic to my issue and happy to try my LGU or let me shoot their gun for 10 minutes. I really want the best shooting gun I can get before the bringer bash, not that it matters, but I'd just like it by then. I guess I could just wait and ask at the bash, but that's weeks away and time wasted shooting.

    Maybe I'll just buy a TX and sell the losing gun at the Boing Bash?
    Both guns will be mint and new, so should simply fly away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbeam View Post
    Hi TonyL,

    I live in Cardiff more or less. SFS is about an hour and a half each way. The only reason I say Redbeck is because somebody suggested them to me, they have a range, will allow you to shoot before buying and were helpful on the phone a few weeks ago, but they are a days drive away!

    My local club was Tree Tops, but now closed. I'm trying to get into Quarry Hunters, but that is taking some time and even if I do get there, I can't just rock up and ask to try some guys gun. Infact, I can't just turn up cold to any club and ask to try a gun, it's just not the done thing.

    Every shop I've asked so far say no to trying before buying. The one I bought the LGU from said to go to Tondu (north of Cardiff) to try a TX and just ask, that was their answer rather than helping a customer standing at the counter. You'd never buy a car with out test driving it or buy a TV without seeing the picture, yet you have to buy a gun without shooting it, it's very odd.

    I think most shops are just there to shift boxes, the shop I bought the LGU from were utterly clueless to differing recoil between the LGU and TX when I asked today. The first guy on the phone I asked said he thought he could help, but didn't know! I said you either know about recoil or not! He got somebody else to talk to me. I think people find me hard work, but I'm really not, if you know what your talking about, I'm easy. If you don't know and try to fob me off, I'm very hard work, but that always seems to be 'my' fault when a sales guy is clueless. Must be this age of denial we live in!

    This is why I was hoping to meet somebody here sympathetic to my issue and happy to try my LGU or let me shoot their gun for 10 minutes. I really want the best shooting gun I can get before the bringer bash, not that it matters, but I'd just like it by then. I guess I could just wait and ask at the bash, but that's weeks away and time wasted shooting.

    Maybe I'll just buy a TX and sell the losing gun at the Boing Bash?
    Both guns will be mint and new, so should simply fly away!
    In terms of differences in recoil / firing cycles between these two "top-end" springers, I really don't think you'll notice much difference, you know. Both excellent guns with their own fan bases.

    The reason I'd suggested SFS is that I'm sure I've heard they have a range to test there. And Tony Wall is one of our respected tuners and very knowledgeable.

    The problem with many shops is that they are not just specialist airgun shops and, to make ends meet, do a bit of everything. So some may not have the in-depth knowledge or share our "obsessive" quest for springer perfection.

    I'd still be tempted to not do anything rash just yet. Just get to know your current gun inside out. Get to know every little foible and intricacy. Learn how she likes to be held. And do some pellet testing....try some more Exacts, some AAFs, H&N FTT and RWS Superdomes
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    Tuning the LGU seems difficult as there doesn't 'seem' to be a standard 'off the peg kit'.
    Maybe because it's 'new' or doesn't need one?

    I've been reading many good things about the TX200 with a Vortek kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    https://www.britishrecoilingchampion...c-2018-winner/

    You will have to take my word for it that it was an lgu, I was there awesome shooting from John only missing two, I only managed 28 this time around .
    Yes Nick of course I take your word

    Are you talking about this gun?



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    That is deafo an LGU, I can see the pellet on the bear trap and safety switch.

    I'm very happy with my LGU in all areas, but I'd like less kick.
    I'm sure that LGU in the pick is awesome, are the guts 100% standard? does it recoil as much as mine?

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