Lightweight springer for lightly built pensioner

[Riffler]

HW30
HW50/99

all in "s" would have the better Rekord trigger
at those ranges and tasks......22 would be much better for what he has in mind.....mild mannered recoil compared to .177.....just as accurate ......better stopping power than 177
all easier to cock that their bigger brothers

[Shed tuner]

HW30
HW50/99

all in "s" would have the better Rekord trigger
at those ranges and tasks......22 would be much better for what he has in mind.....mild mannered recoil compared to .177.....just as accurate ......better stopping power than 177
all easier to cock that their bigger brothers

Not sure I agree on calibre - for the same spring, the .177 will generate less energy, but will recoil similarly. If you are talking about both rifles being the same power, sure, but I don't think power is what's needed for 20 yards with open sights.

I might however consider .22 purely from the perspective of being less fidly, if that's a concern, but otherwise .177 will be cheaper to feed and have less trajectory, which is handy if you have low power and open sights.

[njc110381]

The calibre thing is something that's pretty set in his mind. He had his old Original in .177 and was later talked into getting an Airsporter in .22. In his words it was s*not very good*! Mental block on that - he hates .22's!

Edit - No CO2 unfortunately. I was thinking about a Ratcatcher but he wants a break barrel. At 70+ he's set in his ways and that won't change!

[jirushi]

As mentioned in an earlier reply, I would go for a BSA Light Pattern. Or a Meteor. Or a Lightning (the older type - plenty for sale s/h). My Light Pattern is built like a tank (it has survived for a long time), and it shoots well. Pretty light cocking effort. About 5 fpe in .177. So that's a tad lower than your request. But it will be absolutely fine for your father's use. Above that, it will hold its value, or even go up in value. I bought mine recently for 150 pounds, in excellent condition (restored, but I'm fine with that). My Meteor is nice too. I prefer the Lightning though. You will need a full length barrel on the Lightning to cock it easily, or a silencer fitted to a carbine barrel. My .22 Lightning has now got a .177 barrel, which reduced the power from about 10.5 fpe to 8.5 fpe. I prefer it in .177.
I find HW's to be heavy in comparison to the BSA's. The Light Pattern is really nice and light - what's in a name. Don't tell your father that it is also called the Ladies pattern. Being a modern man, that doesn't worry me too much.
Cheers, Louis

[Geezer]

Some good suggestions. Let me add the older "Original" Diana 27. Weight just under 6lbs, about 7 ft-lbs of power, nice trigger (when properly adjusted), cocks easily, and both decently accurate and well made.

[Riffler]

.22 as calibre cos, imho, rats don’t always hang around long enough in the garden to get the perfect bead on them.
A HW30 with .22 Hobbys tends to do the business every time.

Also great fun for plinking.
Hobbys in my 30s are like the bumblebee, theoretically crap at flying due to design but beautifully accurate in reality

[les allam]

A Hw30s would be my choice, I just got one myself and found it to be a cracking little rifle.
My one as no galling issues and shoots nice and sweet,it's in .177 cal.
Atb
Les..