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    Black plastic stocks ...

    What is the BBS consensus on these? Do they like them or does the weight of wood carry more weight? The stocks give the rifles a different balance, is there anything else people have noticed? Considering swapping my 77 back to wood, also now thinking about my BSA Scorpion. The Scorpion shape is excellent, just not sure about the weight.

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    I have just bought an HW97 KT in black synthetic and placed it in straight into a walnut custom stock. It was my intention from the off to do this but I did fire a few pellets with the synthetic. Personally to me it felt way too light, recoil was unpleasant and I wasn't keen on the feel of it. However all I would say is each to their own as the synthetic stock was quality made and will obviously appeal to some people. I think the synthetic stocks are much better suited to rifles such as the new version of the HW30s where the rifle is designed to be lighter and less heavy on the power.

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    I don't much like the '97K blackline 'fisthole' stock either.

    Also agree that the BSA tactical stock is a good shape. I particularly like the upright 'target' grip.

    Perhaps both could do with some insulation (silicon piped into sandwich bags) to fill the voids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickenbacker View Post
    I don't much like the '97K blackline 'fisthole' stock either.

    Also agree that the BSA tactical stock is a good shape. I particularly like the upright 'target' grip.

    Perhaps both could do with some insulation (silicon piped into sandwich bags) to fill the voids?
    Hmm that is a good idea for the Scorpion, it is a perfect fit for me. I think the 97KT stock is going to have to go, popping the safety is awkward whichever way I've tried it and the pistol grip is too skinny.

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    I had an Ultra in a synthetic stock and changed it for a proper timber stock. My Verminator is in a synthetic stock and I can't imagine it any other way. So I think there is a factor to consider, is the synthetic stock a composite part of the design or just an option the manufacturer wishes to list, for whatever reason.
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    There's also the small matter that one "plastic" stock might be of a completely different design to the next one
    some are hollow with thin(ish) skins over a matrix of ribs others are more solid or a different composite material.

    I only have one on a Ruger .22lr but it's solid & I certainly like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    What is the BBS consensus on these? Do they like them or does the weight of wood carry more weight? The stocks give the rifles a different balance, is there anything else people have noticed? Considering swapping my 77 back to wood, also now thinking about my BSA Scorpion. The Scorpion shape is excellent, just not sure about the weight.

    Synthetic stocks are great on hunting guns, no worrying about scratches and dents.
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    beat me to it,you can knock em to hell if you hunt.i have a grey laminate gc stock for my air wolf.changed that for a horrible black synthetic stock.functional,tough,and i dont have to bother about knocks scratches etc.

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    I owned a BSA Scorpion Tactical a few years back, liked the stock, didn't think it was too light and I liked the durability.

    As to the Weihrauch synthetic stocks, I really don't like the look of them at all.

    Horses for courses I suppose.

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    I LOVE the synthetic stocks.....fitted one to one of my 77s and I also have the 30S Synthetic and Gamo Vipermax.

    I like the perceived durability for a field rifle and particularly like the "stealthy" looks on the black '97 and '30 items.

    Comfortable, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    I LOVE the synthetic stocks.....fitted one to one of my 77s and I also have the 30S Synthetic and Gamo Vipermax.

    I like the perceived durability for a field rifle and particularly like the "stealthy" looks on the black '97 and '30 items.

    Comfortable, too.
    The irony being that black is a colour that hardly exists in nature. Whereas if you are hunting in, say, a wood, then a sort of brown wood colour is much better camouflage than black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    The irony being that black is a colour that hardly exists in nature. Whereas if you are hunting in, say, a wood, then a sort of brown wood colour is much better camouflage than black.
    To that degree then, never see many varnished branches... lol

    I don't think the colour makes as much of a difference as to say a really shiny finish? But then I don't have pigeon eyes so maybe it's all just about the movement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithy View Post
    Synthetic stocks are great on hunting guns, no worrying about scratches and dents.
    Completely agree. My T10 has the tactical stock and it's comfortable and I don't have to worry about dinking it whilst out hunting. I wrap mine in pieces of camo cloth from old surplus kit to break up the shape and colour of the stock so quarry do not spook
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithy View Post
    Synthetic stocks are great on hunting guns, no worrying about scratches and dents.
    Quote Originally Posted by woodpigeon View Post
    beat me to it,you can knock em to hell if you hunt.i have a grey laminate gc stock for my air wolf.changed that for a horrible black synthetic stock.functional,tough,and i dont have to bother about knocks scratches etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by CannonFodder View Post
    I owned a BSA Scorpion Tactical a few years back, liked the stock, didn't think it was too light and I liked the durability.

    As to the Weihrauch synthetic stocks, I really don't like the look of them at all.

    Horses for courses I suppose.
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    I LOVE the synthetic stocks.....fitted one to one of my 77s and I also have the 30S Synthetic and Gamo Vipermax.

    I like the perceived durability for a field rifle and particularly like the "stealthy" looks on the black '97 and '30 items.

    Comfortable, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by danco1987 View Post
    Completely agree. My T10 has the tactical stock and it's comfortable and I don't have to worry about dinking it whilst out hunting. I wrap mine in pieces of camo cloth from old surplus kit to break up the shape and colour of the stock so quarry do not spook
    Now se I've got a bit of a different take on the whole "damage to plastic is better than wood" idea and that is that damaged plastic can be nasty.. Scrapes can leave flappy bits that grase you, you can't sand it without of ruining the finish with white scratch marks, you can't cut it off without creating more flappy bits, you can't melt it flat without making it worse. I imagen it being a nightmare to be honest, not to mention the environmental impact of plastic and the "chuck away" connotations it inspires. Seriously give me wood (sustainably grown at least) anytime.
    Its a shame really that the gun manufacturer's haven't yet caught on to the new breed of " hunt your own meat" sustainable living (dare I say it) "hippies" and come up with a recycled materials airgun!! Don't see why it isn't possible to be honest..
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    I can't see why 'responsible manufacturers' can't make stocks out of living wood?

    You could plant your stock in the garden when you weren't using it?

    It could grow it's own seasonal camo, you know, like in the spring, it would blossom?

    Oh yes, on reflection I can see why not - because I'm not a stupid hippie.

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