Do I want an HW98 or a TX200HC...?

[look no hands]

Got to be a TX

Pete

[FPoole]

I have 8 TX's at the moment, so I vote for TX.

[kimi]

I'm trying to make a similar decision myself.. i'm leaning towards a 95 with a 98 barrel shroud ! Theres something about the break barrels for me.

[Bluefan]

Prosport or my preference for a quandary both.

[harvey_s]

Besides, the HW98 is so pig ugly that even it's own Mother would struggle to love it (lol).

See, now I like the 98 stock a lot....
Can't be alone on this as well - if a bare 98 stock comes up on here they seem to go in 20 secs flat!

[DJP]

I have toyed with this idea, but couldn't find one to look at and popular opinion seems to regard Walthers XM trigger unit as a poor relation to Weihrauch's Rekord or A-A's CD units... But more than happy to hear opinions on this too...

Thanks for the replys so far

The Umarex trigger is essentially very similar to the Air Arms CD but in truth, I prefer the Rekord trigger to either of them.

However, my Century remains one of the most effortlessly accurate guns that I've owned and hits what I aim at, time and again.

And that's where it really counts.

[DJP]

LOL you are so right about the individual opinions, but I have tried to show many times how the TX is better constructed than the Umarex LGU going through the two guns part by part showing pictures but Umarex owners just ignore things like the trigger and underlever just to mention two things

I'd certainly agree on the LGU underlever - it would enough to put me off buying the rifle and TX's is undoubtedly a better design.

[Phil Russell]

IF you go for the TX ... can you try it in the shop to make sure it cocks easily with the safety popping out without the need to 'yank' on the lever?
I know people say this yanking is normal for a TX but in my opinion it should not be so. I have seen many a TX where it is not needed.

Of others ... the LGV is nice, as is the LGU or the 77K. Never tried a 98.

Cheers, Phil

[FPoole]

IF you go for the TX ... can you try it in the shop to make sure it cocks easily with the safety popping out without the need to 'yank' on the lever?
I know people say this yanking is normal for a TX but in my opinion it should not be so. I have seen many a TX where it is not needed.

Of others ... the LGV is nice, as is the LGU or the 77K. Never tried a 98.

Cheers, Phil

The tolerances are so fine, in the TX trigger unit, it's just bound to happen with some guns. I have 8 TX's and 1 needs a slight bump at the end, another needs just a positive cocking action and the others set the safety with just a slow pull back. The rear tip of the top sear pushes down on the top of the middle sear camming it forward. When this happens, the bottom sear moves up and blocks the bottom of the middle sear. It also is when the top of the middle sear gets forward enough to allow the safety to pop out. I'm convinced that just a fraction of a mm extra engagement between the top and middle sear would cam the middle sear that tiny fraction extra to allow the safety to pop out. Of course, these parts are ground to shape and, once it's gone, a welder is the only way to put some material back. I just live with it, but there has to be a simple way to achieve this slight clearance.

[Rickenbacker]

See, now I like the 98 stock a lot....
Can't be alone on this as well - if a bare 98 stock comes up on here they seem to go in 20 secs flat!

You are not alone.

Also, in the past I've joined in with Alistair poking fun at the HW95/98 'security tiles' - but now I've evolved (by stripping the actions down dozens of times), I use two of the tiles diagonally (instead of all four).

And I have realised the three main advantages that the 95/98 bayonet design has over the old revered screw-in trigger block HWs.

[Rob Edge]

Prosport or my preference for a quandary both.

Now if that is not what my money got spent on it would have been the TX.

[CuppaT]

I have 2 x HW95's, and 1 x TX200HC. The 95's are essentially the same guts as the 98, just different stock (if you like it) and weighted barrel Vs barrel with mod.

For me the decision is easy, HW95 wins, or HW98 if you want. They are excellent - such a dream to shoot and easy to work on to make them silky smooth.
The TX sadly doesn't have the same place in my heart. It weighs a ton and is super hold sensitive. I have tried it in MK3 and MK2 form (stroke), MK2 is a marked improvement but still not as easy to shoot as the HW95.

It's your money and to be frank both rifles are well respected - you probably can't make the wrong decision as some just prefer the 95 and some prefer the TX - so it's time for you to find out which you prefer.

[phil384]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_foUTtciqg

Like DJP Said

I have a Terrus which is brilliant.

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

I've had them both and the HW98 and TX200HC are not at all similar in weight and balance.

The AA is a carbine with a fairly neutral balance. It's heavier than the HW98 but feels more comfortable.

The HW98 is a long gun which is extremely front heavy. It's supposed to be a target rifle, but the stock is nowhere near deep enough, and the pistol grip is nowhere near where it should be. It's just a HW95 with an adjustable stock and a boat anchor on the end.

The Walther LGU out of the box is more accurate than either of them. But there is the trigger issue, which is hit or miss when buying one.

My LGU was fine, but my LGV was a pain in the arse.

[nige346]

recently sold my brand new TX200HC after I purchased an HW77K which although older and used when I purchased it was and is a far nicer rifle to shoot (for me anyway), I did like the TX however and prefered it to the Pro sport as an everyday user, I also had an HW95 with a sleeved barrel which was also very good but again the 77k trounced it, ALL my rifles have gone now with the exception of the HW77,

Id agree the TX is better out of the box but only minimal work is required to make the HW's very good indeed,