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    The "spike" at 110 bar is when it's coming off the reg , the gun settings you've got at the moment are working at their most efficient meanjng the reg is set a touch too high you get a few higher power shots then it drops right off.
    Turn it down just a very small amount then do another string and see what that gives you. When you get a flat string you're at optimum reg pressure then you can start altering the other bits to get the power you want from that reg pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    The "spike" at 110 bar is when it's coming off the reg
    Don't understand what 'off the regulator' means.

    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    The gun settings you've got at the moment are working at their most efficient meanjng the reg is set a touch too high you get a few higher power shots then it drops right off.
    Do you mean the reg is currently set higher than 95 bar (indicated on the reg body), and is closer to 110 bar?

    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    Turn it down just a very small amount then do another string and see what that gives you. When you get a flat string you're at optimum reg pressure then you can start altering the other bits to get the power you want from that reg pressure
    What do you mean by a flat string... same FPS, no variation throughout the complete no' of test shots? Sorry if I seem thick

    I was hoping I wouldn't have to touch the reg again. It's an internal reg and I hate pushing it past the internal cylinder threads. It's quite hard to push it past the threads and it feels like you're going to knacker the outer body 'o' ring on the reg. Ah well if needs must

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    Falling off the reg means the main cylinder pressure has gone below the reg pressure so you're getting air at the same pressure either side of the reg i.e. the pressure has dropped below 95 bar and working as if the there is no reg there.

    flat string = a string of similar velocities like you have been getting but that doesn't spike at the end just drops down.

    Missed the fact it should be 95bar which is on the low side anyway for a .177, ignore me saying turn it down you can also eliminate the spike with the other settings, to save a load of typing and will be a lot clearer watch Rob Lane's video on what to do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gBFdY3YDxc

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    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    Falling off the reg means the main cylinder pressure has gone below the reg pressure so you're getting air at the same pressure either side of the reg i.e. the pressure has dropped below 95 bar and working as if the there is no reg there.
    OK - I get that.

    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    Flat string = a string of similar velocities like you have been getting but that doesn't spike at the end just drops down.
    OK

    Quote Originally Posted by bezzer View Post
    Missed the fact it should be 95bar which is on the low side anyway for a .177, ignore me saying turn it down you can also eliminate the spike with the other settings, to save a load of typing and will be a lot clearer watch Rob Lane's video on what to do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gBFdY3YDxc
    OK.

    Going back to the reg setting. If it's falling off the reg at 110 bar, then this means the reg must be set at around 110 also and not at 95 bar? (sorry to repeat the question).

    I'll watch the vid now.

    Thanks for your help bezzer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitslayer View Post


    Going back to the reg setting. If it's falling off the reg at 110 bar, then this means the reg must be set at around 110 also and not at 95 bar? (sorry to repeat the question).
    Would appear so if your gauge is accurate, but the last overall string you posted isn't that bad really, you should get away with not having to mess with it just the other stuff - springs and hammer so you're using less air and getting an increased count.

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    Hello back again. I didn't want to complicate matters so I left this out.
    On the .22 then having the screw flush with the breech block was too much and it was wound out about 1/8" further. I was not comfortable with this so I got a gas torch out , got 1 coil red hot and collapsed it. Screw is now flush with the breach block.
    How old is the spring just as a matter of interest? Later I will measure a new one and come back with the length so you can compare it with what you have got .
    ATB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff555 View Post
    Hello back again. I didn't want to complicate matters so I left this out.
    On the .22 then having the screw flush with the breech block was too much and it was wound out about 1/8" further. I was not comfortable with this so I got a gas torch out , got 1 coil red hot and collapsed it. Screw is now flush with the breach block.
    How old is the spring just as a matter of interest? Later I will measure a new one and come back with the length so you can compare it with what you have got .
    ATB.
    Geoff.
    Mine's a .177. I guess the hammer spring would be the same for both calibre's? Not sure how old the spring is as I bought this rifle secondhand.

    Thanks.

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