Harper Wolf .25 Classic Pistol - valuation

[Mark D]

Posting this on behalf of a friend with zero computer skills

Harper Wolf .25 Classic Pistol. 10 shot manually indexed magazine.

It's been tested wth CO2 and it holds gas and shoots as intended. Uses a 9v battery in the grip to control the micro switch trigger.

Fantastic condition, as only ever displayed and a few shots in the garden.

No idea how many were made,least in this .25 calibre which uses a 5" barrel and was commissioned directly by the owner.

If you click on either of the pictures it will take you to the album (11photos)
Note the blue background was not my idea

Thoughts on value please gents

[IMG]Wolf 6 (1) by Mark Davis, on Flickr[/IMG]Wolf 1 (1) by Mark Davis, on Flickr

[guy]

Bought a couple of these in the last 6 months not .25 admittedly but one mint in box and the other recently serviced they ranged from 325 to 375 saw another at Kempton on a dealers stall at 300

Would say 350-375

Holds gas? These are pcp.

[gingernut]

I paid £300 for a reasonable .22 model two years ago.

I saw a .25 at Bisley a few more years ago for £525 but not with your short barrel.

They are PCP and came with a pellet seating tool that is needed.
I've not seen the tool.
I seat my pellets otherwise they fall out of the mag when you shoot.

Yours is in exceptional condition so £400 plus.

[Geezer]

I think Holts or one of the other big auctioneers sold a long one in .22" for £350-400 (plus fees, tax etc) in the last year. Your mate's one is extra desirable through calibre and shortness and rarity.

If I had the relevant PCP charging gear, I'd be checking my bank account and PM'ing you, not commenting on here.

If it were mine, I wouldn't let it go for less than £400. And would hope to get £500-600. Or maybe even a bit more to the right buyer. It is quite special, and rare.

So: £500. Will sell. If not, go to auction and some nutter may end up bidding loads.

[gingernut]

It fills via a standard screw in adapter !/8 bsp? at the front of the cylinder.
Unplug the battery first and max 180 bar.

They are good accurate pistols with plenty of power.

No trigger feel as electronic and you rotate the mag by hand.
Which means its safe when you have taken your shot.

The more I write the more I think its worth!

[greasemonkey]

saw one of these at an arms fair last weekend,it was in good order and .177 calibre,price was £375..

[Mark D]

Thanks chaps - will let the owner know

[topgun35]

The bad news is it's had CO2 in it, so the seals might be F**cked!

[Mark D]

The bad news is it's had CO2 in it, so the seals might be F**cked!

Thanks for the enlightening contribution

[BradleyHardacre]

Thanks for the enlightening contribution

I will appreciate you keeping me advised on this please...

[gingernut]

I doubt a whiff of co2 has done any harm.
You can soon check by filling it with air.

[master_shriller]

The bad news is it's had CO2 in it, so the seals might be F**cked!

It probably had a small squirt of Co2 because Mark didn't have any high pressure air available and has a Co2 bulk fill setup.

I know a very clever chap who's initials are "L A", he repairs guns for possibly the biggest collector/ dealer in the country.

His primary focus is Co2 and self contained pump up airguns, but he repairs quite a few PCP's, (only for the above mentioned dealer) and he only has bulk fill Co2.

When he has repaired a PCP, he gives it a squirt of Co2 so he can test it. He has done this many, many times and guess what, nothing, the guns are fine. The dealer who sells them doesn't get loads of comeback due to failed O rings.

Co2 can cause certain types of O rings to swell up, also they can micro blister a little bit, but do shrink back to their original size. Personally, I've mainly found this type on Soviet Era Eastern Block Co2 guns, also I suspect some cheap Chinese O rings could be the same. The O rings that are constrained internally don't seem to fail prematurely.

Also there are one or two guns available that run on Co2 or high pressure air, dual fuel our American friends call them.

So, if I was buying this very nice Harper pistol, I certainly wouldn't be at all concerned about O rings failing.

[Mark D]

Guys, thanks for all the contributions on this 'valuation' thread.

Thanks also to Ben for his excellent contribution with reference to the use of CO2

I have made all comments re value known to the owner, at the moment he wants to hang onto it.

I would keep an eye open for it at the next Kempton though

[BradleyHardacre]

I paid £300 for a reasonable .22 model two years ago.

I saw a .25 at Bisley a few more years ago for £525 but not with your short barrel.

They are PCP and came with a pellet seating tool that is needed.
I've not seen the tool.
I seat my pellets otherwise they fall out of the mag when you shoot.

Yours is in exceptional condition so £400 plus.

And this?