P10 artemis shorty

[madcarlos]

I've owned one for a while now, bought off here as new. Very accurate and well made. Two gripes are the light coloured stock (which looks the same on the p15) the bolt position and it sometimes needs an extra tug to engage that runs the risk of double loading. I've stripped mine to polish hammer etc very easy and changed some of the very soft seals though it didn't leak. I think you can buy these for the 400 mark so at 200 to 250 you would be getting a good gun for the money.

Thanks again for that , I should be picking the gun up about 4pm today, Was thinking long term to get stock dipped or possibly texture it and spray it black as the stocks do look a bit plain, At moment I'll keep as is with the gun being new in case I don't take to it, Was not going to buy another gun but for the money it's worth a try,

[madcarlos]

Hi lads just a quick one, I picked the gun up today and could not wait to get out with it and give it a try, From the start I was looking for all the negatives and as with the bolt you do have to give it that extra tug, Saying that I quite like the way the bolt sort of clicks back into place, You can really feel that it is docked back in properly, The magazine I found quite nice and easy to load and likes the way it docks into place, You do have to give the pellets a nudge in to seat properly into the mag but then you have to with quite a few other guns so not really a bad thing, Took all of about 6 or so shots to have the scopes set on target and was shooting approx 40 yards at very small objects, Will do paper targets soon and fine tune the sights, In all fairness approx 80 yards and two mil dots of the scope and I was happily hitting a coke can from a standing position, Its a heavy old thing but being a compact gun the weight easily disappears when you lift to shoot, Power wise, Through my skan it was doing 11.5 with at most a 7ft p/s varience and quite a few shots a only 2 ft p/s , Quite impressed to be honest, I was really half expecting a bucket of crap, The only thing I could point at was the quality of the housing on top of the block, Just looks to plastic but really that's all I could fault it on, Again the stock feels great but looks cheap, I think for about £70 if the stock was camo dipped it would transform the look quite a lot, In all I quite like this gun, Will update when I get more use but for me it's all good , Very good for the money. Oh one more thing , Not quite sure but the trigger seems awsum to me , Can't explain why really but it does really feel good to me,

[peddy]

I'm glad you are pleased with it. The stock is the worst part, though not in construction just the light shade, we see dark stain as quality, bit like brown bottled beer!! They are easy to strip which is a good thing. I've fitted a moderator adapter and sound absorbtion in the shroud, making it super quiet. My trigger is also very good, just wish the bolt engaged easier and I've tried everything. I single load jsb and have top accuracy. I'd like one in .177 and wish I'd got one from country ways when they were selling them cheap.

[madcarlos]

I'm glad you are pleased with it. The stock is the worst part, though not in construction just the light shade, we see dark stain as quality, bit like brown bottled beer!! They are easy to strip which is a good thing. I've fitted a moderator adapter and sound absorbtion in the shroud, making it super quiet. My trigger is also very good, just wish the bolt engaged easier and I've tried everything. I single load jsb and have top accuracy. I'd like one in .177 and wish I'd got one from country ways when they were selling them cheap.

Yes bud I'm happy with it, Very happy so far. As with the stock I was thinking of using the textured stone effect spay at the front of stock where you hold with your hand and again around the pistol grip area and then spray all the stock with a Matt or satin spray, The gun came with a new carbon silencer fitted along with the adapter , It also come with the cylinder / shroud clamp and bi pod and also had the weaver type high raised mounts, Had a bag of seals and he's keys etc etc,
I'm thinking the same really with regards to 177 or even .25 cal, For the second hand price I would be tempted to buy another,
Just a question though, The screw at the end of the block just under the cocking bolt , Is that just for tension of the hammer spring, Just asking as although I can wind in or out the regulator seems to be keeping it bang on with hardly any difference ,
I'm hoping to get out with it again later if this rain stops,

[peddy]

Yes bud I'm happy with it, Very happy so far. As with the stock I was thinking of using the textured stone effect spay at the front of stock where you hold with your hand and again around the pistol grip area and then spray all the stock with a Matt or satin spray, The gun came with a new carbon silencer fitted along with the adapter , It also come with the cylinder / shroud clamp and bi pod and also had the weaver type high raised mounts, Had a bag of seals and he's keys etc etc,
I'm thinking the same really with regards to 177 or even .25 cal, For the second hand price I would be tempted to buy another,
Just a question though, The screw at the end of the block just under the cocking bolt , Is that just for tension of the hammer spring, Just asking as although I can wind in or out the regulator seems to be keeping it bang on with hardly any difference ,
I'm hoping to get out with it again later if this rain stops,

Sounds interesting with your stock idea, I'm always a bit wary of refinishing unless it's tatty as it affects any future resale. Yes the rear screw is for hammer Spring adjustment, don't think Chinese have heard of anti tamper! I removed the hammer to polish as it was a bit rough and played around with the transfer ports and hammer springs to get an easier cocking but sub 12fpe.

[madcarlos]

Sounds interesting with your stock idea, I'm always a bit wary of refinishing unless it's tatty as it affects any future resale. Yes the rear screw is for hammer Spring adjustment, don't think Chinese have heard of anti tamper! I removed the hammer to polish as it was a bit rough and played around with the transfer ports and hammer springs to get an easier cocking but sub 12fpe.

Yes I did give it a turn in and out but hardly any difference except when it was to far out which dropped the power to below 2ft lbs, I'm assuming the reg is set to prevent it going over. But 40 plus yards and hitting small objects plus the 80 plus yards using the mil dots on coke cans was above my expectations. Better still I'm only half way down the green on the gage and have used nearly 60 shots, Been told to expect about 90 shots but the last owner thought it was around the 140 shots,
I've done a hw97 stock and also a hw77 stock is in the middle of being done with the textured spray then coated over with satin spray, It has a lovely feel to it but as you pointed out the 97 and 77 stocks needed refurbing so if worse I could have removed any coatings I put on and re oiled etc , The stock on the p10 is in very nice condition so it's a gamble , With the price of these new and similar priced guns the second hand value would be around the £250 price range and really don't think it would lose much more by somebody trying to better the stock, If worse a camo dip to the stock would rectify any bad refurb,
One thing with these p10 shorty is that there seems to be very little about second hand and over the last 2 days places advertising them for around the £300/£350 price range don't have them in stock , I have also found this with other makes is that they advertise gun prices knowing they ain't got them in stock and when they do get them the price rises.

[madcarlos]

Sounds interesting with your stock idea, I'm always a bit wary of refinishing unless it's tatty as it affects any future resale. Yes the rear screw is for hammer Spring adjustment, don't think Chinese have heard of anti tamper! I removed the hammer to polish as it was a bit rough and played around with the transfer ports and hammer springs to get an easier cocking but sub 12fpe.

Only one more question which is about shot count, I filled mine to 190 bar and shot roughly 60/70 pellets, The needle on the gage was just under half way in the green section , At a guess I'm thinking another 20 or so good shots left which I would say in total about 80/90 , Been a but busy and with the weather we've had I ain't had much time to go back out with it but I've noticed comments regarding shot count and some say 90 some say as much as 130 shots, Any idea bud in 22 cal, Thanks.
And also is 190 bar ok.

[madcarlos]

Just found a article in one of the air gun magazines and it states 96 full power shots on a 220 bar fill and a further 30 shots possible just under,

[peddy]

Only one more question which is about shot count, I filled mine to 190 bar and shot roughly 60/70 pellets, The needle on the gage was just under half way in the green section , At a guess I'm thinking another 20 or so good shots left which I would say in total about 80/90 , Been a but busy and with the weather we've had I ain't had much time to go back out with it but I've noticed comments regarding shot count and some say 90 some say as much as 130 shots, Any idea bud in 22 cal, Thanks.
And also is 190 bar ok.

I'd say I get near 100 shots from 190 bar, which is what I fill to. You would probably get nearer 120 at 200 bar, but I never fill any of my pcp's to that pressure. Id be interested in pictures of your finished stock if you decide to do it.