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    Fixed barrel springers, will there ever be a better setup than the sliding breech

    Also what popular modern sliding breech gun has the best breech seal up?

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    The roller-breech as used on BSA SuperStars and some Gamos is a safer method of getting direct-loading, but I think it still has some efficiency issues because of the length of the transfer port. This design could be worked on to give a shorter TP with some imagination, but it might be a little more complex. Sliding breech is cheap, works well and apart from the finger-chopping potential, does the job extremely well.

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    hatsan torpedo maybe?

    The system that the hatsan torpedo uses looks good

    https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...act=mrc&uact=8

    allows direct-to-barrel loading but none of the beartrap issues. Maybe a bit lighter too, as it doesn't need a separate compression cylinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassbanjo View Post
    The system that the hatsan torpedo uses looks good

    https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...act=mrc&uact=8

    allows direct-to-barrel loading but none of the beartrap issues. Maybe a bit lighter too, as it doesn't need a separate compression cylinder

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    Only problem is that it is not a fixed barrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post
    Only problem is that it is not a fixed barrel
    I have been studying the pictures and thought, no, they CAN'T have made it with the barrel sliding back and forth with all the slop that would imply, yet it cannot be a sleeve as that would mean about 10ccs of dead space between the transfer port and the breech... so you are telling me IT IS a sliding BARREL like a flippin Crosman M1 BB gun? Oh very dear me. First Webley-style trap-doors, now this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post
    Only problem is that it is not a fixed barrel
    Busted! you're right of course

    The amount of "slop" introduced would depend on the engineering standards,
    but it seems such a simple system, it can't be that difficult to get right?

    Surely it's much more difficult to make an accurate break barrel, where the slightest "slop"
    in the pivot translates to huge inaccuracy?

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    Modern, well made break barrels are better imo. Direct to barrel, shorter TP, faster to reload and just as accurate.
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