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    Hi B&D the air arms s410 in .177 cal is a bargain and was my 1st pcp
    and is still a popular airgun.
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    The Walthers get good reviews for a budget rifle -

    I’ve seen too many AA thin barrels bent (though usually easily fixable) and they are a good simple design
    I prefer BSA and prefer older s/h and then JB blueprinted so I guess my BSAs are custom spec. I prefer the sturdy barrel planted well into breach block

    There are plenty of Webley Raiders around too and old Titan/ Falcon rifles - all good budget bets
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    I have been a springer shooter almost exclusively but a couple of years ago I bought a secondhand BSA Scorpion single shot, (not the SE, the earlier one) and it is spectacularly accurate (sub-10mm groups at 35 yards) with a superb trigger. It's a really well-made simple piece of kit. I think it was about £250. Of course you have to buy a tank or a pump, but for the outlay on a new TX200 or similar I have a really great rifle which is easy to maintain and a total pleasure to shoot. It is so good I never think about buying another PCP, that's it for me.

    The only down side to it is that it has the odd size 14mm BSA scope grooves, so you have to buy a set of BKL mounts which are expensive but pure quality. Otherwise I cannot fault the rifle.

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    Don't overlook Hatsans, AT44 and Galatian for example. Good triggers and very accurate.
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    I do like the look of the bsa scorpions and ultra seems they might be a better option for shooting out of the truck you don't seem to see that many second hand so I suppose that's a good thing or tho the high shot count of the rolex was tempting but your never really gona need that many shots in one outing anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.T View Post
    Don't overlook Hatsans, AT44 and Galatian for example. Good triggers and very accurate.
    I have two, an FAC Galatian and a sub12 Gladius. Built like a tank, sweet trigger, accurate as anything at twice the price and both come in their own hard case.
    You can spend thousands and still miss a barn door or spend just enough and enjoy yourself. If you haven't got the talent to start with a million pound won't fix it. Whippet, Russell, a few bang sticks and a flat cap. http://www.smart-tech1st.co.uk

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    I've never heard of those hatsans I've gun one of these semi auto escorts might have to look at those to

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    Value hunting pcp

    Probably overlooked but my trusty and favourite hunting rig is an AA S400 single shot with Rowan multi shot adaptor.
    I prefer this to the 410 multi shot - especially for hunting because you can load a pellet down the tube then de-cock while waiting for the bunnies. Then silently cock it when you want to take a shot. Sure you have to manually index but in my experience I have never had a jam in the field - where with the S410 if you don't pull the bolt back ebnough (trying to be quiet in the field) you can seriously jam them.
    Each to their own - and there aren't many duff guns really...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boar & deer View Post
    I've never heard of those hatsans I've gun one of these semi auto escorts might have to look at those to
    The Gladius is a bullpup which is particularly good value. Synthetic stock which is fully adjustable, fully shrouded barrel so extremely quiet, side lever cocking in a sensible place, four mags as standard and all in a hard case.
    You can spend thousands and still miss a barn door or spend just enough and enjoy yourself. If you haven't got the talent to start with a million pound won't fix it. Whippet, Russell, a few bang sticks and a flat cap. http://www.smart-tech1st.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCPShooter View Post
    The Walthers get good reviews for a budget rifle -

    I’ve seen too many AA thin barrels bent (though usually easily fixable) and they are a good simple design
    I prefer BSA and prefer older s/h and then JB blueprinted so I guess my BSAs are custom spec. I prefer the sturdy barrel planted well into breach block

    There are plenty of Webley Raiders around too and old Titan/ Falcon rifles - all good budget bets
    I have a Brum Raider 2 shot and a very good tool it is. Mine is a bit pellet fussy liking Bisley Super field, Superdomes and AA pellets mainly also even though I fitted an Anti Fart kit from a reputable source of the time it still emits a hint. Feels nice in the shoulder too. Also recommend a BSA Spitfire, mine has been breathed on by JD and apart from loosing air over couple nights which isn't an issue it's an absolutely cracking carbine to use. Reminds me of my old Brum made Lighting to handle.
    John Darling JD (1946-2004) was my inspiration to be the best i can and enjoy the sport i love. R.I.P
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    I did used to like the webley think I'm gona have to keep my eye out for some thing second hand

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    Yea my s400 is .177 yes barrel is thin but as long as you look after it shiuld be ok,yes its heavyish but not as heavy as tx200 or hw97k,s200 is lighter than s400 thats supposed to be really good aswell,its air arms so bound to be.

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    A second hand S400 is a very good choice, no mags to foul up and very simple to service.

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    I did have an s400 once before should never of sold it really

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