Identify this scope please?

[bighit]

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[thisisdonald]

That's the one lads.. I'll see it on Friday with a view to buying.
Thanks for the rapid identification!

[I. J.]

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Thats a very late advert. When Target Sports of Halliwell Road took over the sales of Optima scopes of Ginlow Mill Bolton.

The 2-7x32 'Clear View' wasn't. Shades of the later Tasco 2-7x32.

Note the price of the laser !

[Muskett]

Is this the Optima Gamekeeper?
A few years back there were some done for Beeman, though manufacture had moved from Japan???? I think.

For some quirky reason the Optima Gamekeeper got a reputation over itself. Optically it was an excellent Hakko. When Hakko does it right they can be fantastic, like B&L can be compared to a Bushnell.

Anyhow, I can't see the picture. Not enough information to give more.

A mint Gamekeeper might demand £200 to a collector wanting one...badly.

[MartynB]

A mint Gamekeeper might demand £200 to a collector wanting one...badly.

Yes, they hold their money, I really wish I'd kept mine, they're optically very good

[Muskett]

Thats the thing they were horribly expensive at the time. Quite why Optim put it their range I have no idea. I believe Hakko put in some great glass and people who looked through them were impressed especially as they were in such a small package.
The Beeman Blue Ribbon range, well I think that is what they were called and were the same initially. Later I think they were manufactured elsewhere and somewhere lost some of the optical gloss along the way. Happy to be proved wrong but thats what I think happened.

I've had a few older Hakko badged scopes that were outstanding, and far superior to other stuff banged for other people. When Hakko wanted to they could do a very bright crisp scope. However, most of their scopes were badged for others and had to match the target market's pocket, which generally meant less good. Not bad but not great.
I do like an Optima for 80's rifles as they were one range highly marketed and hyped in the air rifle magazines of the day. If you have an 80's rifle they are at least authentic.

The odd scope from those times did just jump out at being exceptional. Most weren't, just average good. Some more hype than form. The bigger the scope the more disappointing many were. Even when finding good on the next year they might not have been the same, as something was done to keep to the target price. Just how it was in the swift and ever changing market.

[MartynB]

Thats the thing they were horribly expensive at the time. Quite why Optim put it their range I have no idea. I believe Hakko put in some great glass and people who looked through them were impressed especially as they were in such a small package.
The Beeman Blue Ribbon range, well I think that is what they were called and were the same initially. Later I think they were manufactured elsewhere and somewhere lost some of the optical gloss along the way. Happy to be proved wrong but thats what I think happened.

I've had a few older Hakko badged scopes that were outstanding, and far superior to other stuff banged for other people. When Hakko wanted to they could do a very bright crisp scope. However, most of their scopes were badged for others and had to match the target market's pocket, which generally meant less good. Not bad but not great.
I do like an Optima for 80's rifles as they were one range highly marketed and hyped in the air rifle magazines of the day. If you have an 80's rifle they are at least authentic.

Its odd the actual scope from those times just jump out at being exceptional. Most weren't, just average good. Some more hype than form. The bigger the scope the more disappointing many were. Even when finding good on the next year they might not have been the same, as something was done to keep to the target price. Just how it was in the swift and every changing market.

I paid £240 for my Swarovski Nova 4x32 in 1985 which I still have and works fine

[Muskett]

Swaro always make great scopes. £240 was no small sum in 1985. A 4x Is quite forgiving at the shorter distances but would be even better if parallaxed to say 35m. To get the best for both air rifle and rimfire then it is best even for fixed to have hem parallaxed down closer to their practical expected use range.

Some fixed scopes sometimes just were done right and gave a fantastic "jump" picture at every range. Those are the scopes I look out for and keep. Same with variable, some are just "better".

Leupold made excellent scopes in the 80's and 90's.

We are again seeing some "better" scopes now too. Even the odd Chinese made ones. There are stand out scopes in every pocket ramge now. I shy away from the ones rying too hard with too much magnification, and often go for the model one down in the range as they aren't being overly taxed in their design package. The 4-24 rather than 6-30. I don't think a 1" tube can handle x24 mag unless two foot long! Much happier at x14 or 16 in normal length scopes. Big magnification is asking a lot from the glass and best if given the real estate that 30 or 34 tubes allow.

anyhow still can't see the scope in question.