Collectors Of The Future

[harry mac]

I can see it getting very confusing for future collectors, seeing as most of the spring rifles on the market today seem to be the same 3 or 4 Chinese or Turkish rifles, just re-badged by various different companies.
Anybody else noticed this?

[peddy]

Unfortunately I think we are the last generation of collectors. I look at how younger folk get rid of things way before they need to, theres no way they are going to hang on to airguns that mean nothing to them. I saw this coming a few years ago and was one reason why I sold my extensive collection and have stuck with modern guns apart from odd one.

[45flint]

Unfortunately I think we are the last generation of collectors. I look at how younger folk get rid of things way before they need to, theres no way they are going to hang on to airguns that mean nothing to them. I saw this coming a few years ago and was one reason why I sold my extensive collection and have stuck with modern guns apart from odd one.

I think you are correct, all my children are this way? My wife and I collect stuff, they get rid of stuff. I collect for my enjoyment, not overly concerned about the future beyond me. But I somehow believe if I find pleasure in these machines others will as well. As to the collectability of today’s guns, they won’t be the mass marketed Chinese, Taiwanese guns. But probably the more custom well made smaller shop pieces. DT Fletcher suggested that Mac-1 Sterioded rifles may be future collectables. I can believe that. Things with smaller numbers and high quality.

But if the future holds no value for my guns not sure I care, they are just a lot of enjoyment for me.

[AllanM]

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Well said, I couldn't agree more!

[fozzy45]

I've always said that eventually 'our' collectables will no longer be collectable.
As a rule collectors collect their childhood items. Our childhood items won't concern most of the youngsters nowadays unless you have brought your kids up enjoying what you enjoy. It does bring a question about selling whilet you can still get a good price for things, but like has been said, if they bring you enjoyment, keep them and let someone else worry about them.
Fozzy

[45flint]

I've always said that eventually 'our' collectables will no longer be collectable.
As a rule collectors collect their childhood items. Our childhood items won't concern most of the youngsters nowadays unless you have brought your kids up enjoying what you enjoy. It does bring a question about selling whilet you can still get a good price for things, but like has been said, if they bring you enjoyment, keep them and let someone else worry about them.
Fozzy

I never had any of my airguns when I was a kid. I had a cheap daisy. My interest springs from my firearms collecting and seeing the same qualities in vintage Airguns I can more easily enjoy.

[Jerry Cornelius]

I've always said that eventually 'our' collectables will no longer be collectable.
As a rule collectors collect their childhood items. Our childhood items won't concern most of the youngsters nowadays unless you have brought your kids up enjoying what you enjoy. It does bring a question about selling whilet you can still get a good price for things, but like has been said, if they bring you enjoyment, keep them and let someone else worry about them.
Fozzy

This is true, you see this in bikes where 60s bikes are maybe now not so popular but 80s sports bikes are definitely “classics” (and if I see a nice early Fireblade in the urban tiger paint job , I’m having it!)

But if you collect what you like or admire, who cares if there will be a market? It’ll only be my wife selling them after I’m gone (fill yer boots lads, cos she thinks I paid a lot less than I did )

[Benelli B76]

I've always said that eventually 'our' collectables will no longer be collectable.
As a rule collectors collect their childhood items. Our childhood items won't concern most of the youngsters nowadays unless you have brought your kids up enjoying what you enjoy. It does bring a question about selling whilet you can still get a good price for things, but like has been said, if they bring you enjoyment, keep them and let someone else worry about them.
Fozzy

Yes nostalgia can plays a big part in collecting. I still lust after my past 40 years ago, the Benelli B76, SIG P210-5, Smith and Wesson Model 39 and Browning Medallist. Would collect them if I was in the land of the free.

Baz

[Garvin]

I saw this coming a few years ago and was one reason why I sold my extensive collection and have stuck with modern guns apart from odd one.

This is a very 'transactional' way of looking at collecting, isn't it? You only live once and by realising the value of your guns in your lifetime, you've sacrificed the pleasure of ownership while you're alive! The phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind.

My generation probably seemed to have a rather 'disposable' plastics-based culture to my grandparents, who grew up in a 'make do and mend' age, but it didn't stop me appreciating blued steel and walnut. :-)

[peddy]

This is a very 'transactional' way of looking at collecting, isn't it? You only live once and by realising the value of your guns in your lifetime, you've sacrificed the pleasure of ownership while you're alive! The phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind.

My generation probably seemed to have a rather 'disposable' plastics-based culture to my grandparents, who grew up in a 'make do and mend' age, but it didn't stop me appreciating blued steel and walnut. :-)

I did say that was one reason for selling up, the other was that after an expensive divorce I was left with a empty house and selling my collection was a way of raising funds. I see what you are saying, collecting is a personal hobby and shouldn't be done for future value. Though I wouldn't like to think that my factory fresh Webley mk1 that I sold for £600 would eventually be worthless.

[Garvin]

I did say that was one reason for selling up, the other was that after an expensive divorce I was left with a empty house and selling my collection was a way of raising funds. I see what you are saying, collecting is a personal hobby and shouldn't be done for future value. Though I wouldn't like to think that my factory fresh Webley mk1 that I sold for £600 would eventually be worthless.

Yes, raising funds is a good reason for selling, of course. I did it myself when I was about 19 - sold off most of my 'first' collection. But I do have regrets. Among guns that went to auction were a pristine - and I mean pristine - Airsporter Mk1. I couldn't bear to sell the Webley Mk2 Service though - I still have it now, 35 years odd later.

[Andrew64]

Guys,

I am new to the antique / vintage air gun world. Although I only have a few rifles & pistols, I am amazed at the sense of history with these old air guns. Some over a hundred years old and still relatively accessible. I think people, and the younger generation will still appreciate these usable beautiful pieces and their connection to time and history.

[tomdavies9]

Unfortunately I think we are the last generation of collectors.

I think not However I do believe the number of collectors will diminish as has been said already on here.

I’m in my twenties and other than my 1 modern Rifle I love my 80’s and 90’ SSPs, they hold a sentimental value that in my eyes outweighs the cost. To be honest I didn’t mean to start out as a “collector” but we all know how that goes...

[andrewM]

First, there is no new supply of previous makes and models. Secondly, there is a feeling of history when handling a rifle/pistol of yesteryear and more so when that model is in good condition and works well. Thirdly, well known makes with a reputation will remain collectors' items and that especially applies to British made and also German models - known for their quality. However, I cannot see Turkish and Chinese rifles and pistols becoming of interest to collectors and that includes the Webleys now made in Turkey - a disgrace to the manufacturing history of that name in this country. Fifthly, nostalgia is a factor in collecting - there seem to be many here who have bought again rifles and pistols that they sold many years ago, wishing they had kept them, and I am an example.

The question is whether there will be so many shooters in the future, with an interest in such things.

I have just sold a 1989 Daystate Huntsman to a very decent fellow, here, for £250. Probably, that was a little cheap but he did mention, when I phoned him to ascertain whether he was satisfied with his purchase, that he thought the quality of the older Daystates to be better than the new. There we are: so many say that of the springers too! I have not previously read much about PCPs becoming collectors' pieces but it has to start eventually and perhaps it already has. There is not much by way of guidance in terms of selling prices and I shall probably regret selling mine but never used it and prefer to use these things.

Look at the price that Giffords fetch - and these are problematic to use but command top dollar.

The existence of sites like this make an enormous difference. I have just started collecting and my knowledge base has risen massively as a result (but is modest compared to regular contributors here) and my Omega, Longbow, FWB 127 and 1923 Standard are all due to comments and sentiments I read here. Thanks chaps!

A

[Muskett]

There will be plenty of collectors in the future.
The four necessities are:
Desposable income.
Space to store (people are living in flats rather than houses.)
Somewhere to shoot; back garden even.
Sites like this to give the banter and shared interest.

Have those and the future looks good.

Do expect a change in taste. Fashions change. Pre War might be taken over by "the first pcp's", or mint rifles of the 80's. Or Airsoft is where the action is?? Where the fashion goes is anyone's guess.