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    Weihrauch HW 100 .177 CARBINE/STANDARD Owners....

    Hi Guys,

    How may shots are you getting out of a fully charge cylinder (200 Bar) on your .177 Carbine and Standard length and using what pellet please....

    Thank you in advance.

    Mike

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    Hi Mike,

    Usually my findings have been similiar to what Weihrauch claim:

    https://weihrauch-sport.de/wp-conten...-HW-100-TK.jpg

    Approx 50 in Carbine and around 110 in full length.

    It does depend on how the rifle is setup though as I’ve had the Carbine do a tad more and also had a Carbine do slightly less.

    I’m guessing it’s all down to the regulator pressure as I’ve also had the HW110 do more than there claim but this was down on power so no surprise really.

    As for pellets I’ve always used 4.52 JSB or AA fields in most of my HW100’s over the years.

    There are plenty of tuning options out there though with a different regulator and setup I’ve heard carbines to be over 100 shots now and there’s also higher pressure Air cylinders available (titanium) which would obviously increase the shot count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolzzz View Post
    Hi Mike,

    Usually my findings have been similiar to what Weihrauch claim:

    https://weihrauch-sport.de/wp-conten...-HW-100-TK.jpg

    Approx 50 in Carbine and around 110 in full length.

    It does depend on how the rifle is setup though as I’ve had the Carbine do a tad more and also had a Carbine do slightly less.

    I’m guessing it’s all down to the regulator pressure as I’ve also had the HW110 do more than there claim but this was down on power so no surprise really.

    As for pellets I’ve always used 4.52 JSB or AA fields in most of my HW100’s over the years.

    There are plenty of tuning options out there though with a different regulator and setup I’ve heard carbines to be over 100 shots now and there’s also higher pressure Air cylinders available (titanium) which would obviously increase the shot count.
    Hi Oldskoolzzz,

    Thank you for your replay...

    I've asked for the shot count information from owners because I have the offer of a Carbine model in a custom stock. I'm quite surprised on the carbine shot count being that low, because a friend has recently purchase a new HW100 Standard length, chronoed at about 11.4ft/lb using JSB Exact .177 452 pellets. We did TWO shot count tests on a 200 Bar charge down to the Green area on the gauge and it retuned 198 and 210 shots and still going strong at that with no sign of pellet drop at 35 yards.

    Regards,

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halesowen Kid View Post
    Hi Oldskoolzzz,

    Thank you for your replay...

    I've asked for the shot count information from owners because I have the offer of a Carbine model in a custom stock. I'm quite surprised on the carbine shot count being that low, because a friend has recently purchase a new HW100 Standard length, chronoed at about 11.4ft/lb using JSB Exact .177 452 pellets. We did TWO shot count tests on a 200 Bar charge down to the Green area on the gauge and it retuned 198 and 210 shots and still going strong at that with no sign of pellet drop at 35 yards.

    Regards,

    Mike
    Mike,

    We’re all those shots through the chrono?

    I would be amazed if a standard off the shelf full length in .177 could get that many useable shots

    Even a .22 full length would only do around 140

    To get 198-210 full power shots in .177 I feel it would be buddy bottle territory unless it’s been seriously tuned and modified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolzzz View Post
    Mike,

    We’re all those shots through the chrono?

    I would be amazed if a standard off the shelf full length in .177 could get that many useable shots

    Even a .22 full length would only do around 140

    To get 198-210 full power shots in .177 I feel it would be buddy bottle territory unless it’s been seriously tuned and modified.
    No out of the box, brand new, not tuned. John put about 50 pellets to lead the barrel and then the shot count two tests.

    Even we were shocked and we'll repeat the test again this weekend.

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    I've a std Hw100 (.177) and use JSB heavies. I get 9 full magazines per charge, that's 126 shots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halesowen Kid View Post
    Hi Guys,

    How may shots are you getting out of a fully charge cylinder (200 Bar) on your .177 Carbine and Standard length and using what pellet please....

    Thank you in advance.

    Mike
    I used to get 56 shots out of the KT cylinder, 105 cc.

    A.G

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    Just tested my recently aquired S/H off here, HW100 S .177

    200 bar fill
    JSB Exact 4.52
    First shot 11.4 ft/lb
    After 140 shots, 10.9 ft/lb, but still going through the same hole at 35 yds

    Am amazed it did 140 - well happy with that.

    Paul.

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    HW100KT .177 (2016'ish), 4 mags (48 shots) from a fill of 200 down to just over 100 bar. Then it seems as good of a time as any to refill.
    I've seen people down my local manage to eek it out to 56 using a karbine, most of the full length ones seem to do around 8 mags worth in .177, .22 will get a extra mag or two.

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    .177 carbine filled to 180 bar around 50 good shots then another 15 or so which will slowly drop. For a 200 bar fill first 10 shots or so will go low.
    I started this life with nothing and I still have most of it left!

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    Hi,

    I get 60 shots out of my carbine, for the type of shooting I do (LSR) there's no noticeable change in POI at 20 yards.


    Cheers,



    Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GATMAN View Post
    Just tested my recently aquired S/H off here, HW100 S .177

    200 bar fill
    JSB Exact 4.52
    First shot 11.4 ft/lb
    After 140 shots, 10.9 ft/lb, but still going through the same hole at 35 yds

    Am amazed it did 140 - well happy with that.

    Paul.
    hurrah nice gun that.

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    Unfortunately the factory guns are rarely set up to operate at their maximum efficiency, but it has to be born in mind they are mass produced factory units.

    Using the standard gun around four to five mags on a carbine is normal and eight to ten on a full length. This can be extended by correct tuning but it's limited, the .177KT being the least air efficient and the .22 full length the most.

    Once you start upgrading parts it opens up a whole new world and I've managed 260 shots from a fully modded .20 full length.

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