High End Vs Budget Scope Mounts

[rabbitslayer]

Spend £1000 on a nice rifle, £400 on a reasonable scope & bugger it all up with £5 mounts

Why take the risk .

I've never buggered any of my set ups using cheaper mounts. I've always had very good results which was what led me to ask the initial question. I think there are probably others who may think the same but who daren't say for fear of being shot down by the 'you get what you pay for' brigade.

So anyway, I need some 30mm medium height mounts to fit a 11mm dovetail rail. Can you tell me why I should consider buying a set of BKL's for around the £70 mark when I can get the equivalent Hawke branded mounts for £20?

What do the BKL's do that the Hawkes don't? That's all I'm asking Mr angrybearwithasorehead..

[Roundshot]

I agree, Hawke mounts both two and one piece are more than adequate in my experience, having widely used them on good guns with good scopes with no obvious alignment / zeroing troubles or crimped scope tubes.

Sportsmatch appear to be of finer manufacture, however.

[angrybear]

I've never buggered any of my set ups using cheaper mounts. I've always had very good results which was what led me to ask the initial question. I think there are probably others who may think the same but who daren't say for fear of being shot down by the 'you get what you pay for' brigade.

So anyway, I need some 30mm medium height mounts to fit a 11mm dovetail rail. Can you tell me why I should consider buying a set of BKL's for around the £70 mark when I can get the equivalent Hawke branded mounts for £20?

What do the BKL's do that the Hawkes don't? That's all I'm asking Mr angrybearwithasorehead..

Well for a start they self centre if one side of the mount is fixed & the clamp is on the other side,then the centre line is obviously also fixed & any error/gap has to be entirely on the clamp side.

BKL's don't have a separate clamp, they split up the middle so both legs flex equally which insures the scope sits centred.

If the scope isn't exactly centred your zero will move laterally as the target range changes, & it only takes a fraction of a mm at the muzzle to give 10mm+ down range, of course if you only shoot at one fixed range it doesn't matter.

Also; £70 for BKL's is a rip off & I'm not sure why you used Hawke in your above comparison, Hawke match mounts are equally as good as Sportsmatch & nearly as good as BKL, it's the £5 no-name single strap cr*p that need's to be avoided.
If you've never tried using them, or any other "high end" mounts how can you possibly comment that they're not worth it .

[rabbitslayer]

If you've never tried using them, or any other "high end" mounts how can you possibly comment that they're not worth it .

I never said they weren't worth it angrybear. I said that I use cheap scope mounts (I never mentioned single strap mounts either), and that I have never had any issues. They have always held the scope firm without any creep and as far as I can tell the scopes have all been evenly centred. As such, the question I raised was - why would I look to spend six times the price on a pair of mounts that don't do any better or less of a job than the cheaper version? Jeeez.. how many more times do you need me to explain?

[angrybear]

I never said they weren't worth it angrybear. I said that I use cheap scope mounts (I never mentioned single strap mounts either), and that I have never had any issues. They have always held the scope firm without any creep and as far as I can tell the scopes have all been evenly centred. As such, the question I raised was - why would I look to spend six times the price on a pair of mounts that don't do any better or less of a job than the cheaper version? Jeeez.. how many more times do you need me to explain?

And I have explained why they do a better job, frankly I don't give a flying ? what anyone else uses,

I've seen the benefit through testing, so I use something that has proved itself to work, & offer my advice & opinion to those who are asking for advice.

Some people claim they've never had an issue with cheap kit, just like some people claim they've never had a runner

[krisko]

the expensive ones will enhance your manhood only.
I seriously doubt they will make your gun shoot better, tighter groups

You still have to put a rear shim in, so what’s the point.

Still wondering why our airguns have no 10-20moa built in them.

p.s. all have bad design?

[Phil Russell]

Very interesting thread. I have made several attempts over the years to get people to do a review in which various makes of mounts are compared, side by side, for construction quality, fit etc etc and, ultimately, value for money but no one seems interested. I do not have the necessary equipment to do it but it must be available.
Cheers, Phil

[mattyw1987]

Sportsmatch are just over £15 at one RFD near me and for that price i really don't see the point in using cheap mounts, even hawke mounts are more expensive than them at most of my local rfd's.

[bill57]

Still wondering why our airguns have no 10-20moa built in them.

p.s. all have bad design?

Perhaps because some manufacturers, and to an extent the airgun press, have been persuading us for decades that barrel droop is normal, ie. they can't even build to 0 moa.

[angrybear]

the expensive ones will enhance your manhood only.
I seriously doubt they will make your gun shoot better, tighter groups

You still have to put a rear shim in, so what’s the point.

Still wondering why our airguns have no 10-20moa built in them.

p.s. all have bad design?

I've never needed to shim a scope in my life

Prevent the need rather than cure the fault

[telf]

£70 for BKL mounts ,i have single strap BKLs on all my guns and only ever paid £35 tops

[rabbitslayer]

£70 for BKL mounts ,i have single strap BKLs on all my guns and only ever paid £35 tops

£70 was for BKL double strap 30mm medium mounts 11mm dovetail from uttings I think.

[krisko]

I've never needed to shim a scope in my life

Prevent the need rather than cure the fault

So you are going anal about aligning the outer scope tube to an action block but not the barrel ...
but without the shim You just cross x the erector tube inside...

Fail!
HA HA

[rabbitslayer]

So you are going anal about aligning the outer scope tube to an action block but not the barrel ...
but without the shim You just cross x the erector tube inside...

Fail!
HA HA

Sorry Krisko I'm not that technically minded, can you explain what you mean in layman's terms?