Panorama Legal Weapon!!

[Turnup]

Having watched the prog, I find it disturbing that the .44 Russian cartridge is on the obsolete calibres list. Seems to be a bit of a hole in the law with some cartridges being relatively easy to fabricate from other similar cases. A muzzle loading colleague has also been known to fabricate 12 bore BP pinfire cartridges just to see if he could - they worked fine but were far too much trouble to be a worthwhile in quantity. Once again it seems that the law is a little naïve and over simplistic. I suppose given enough resource and motivation almost any cartridge could be home made.

[1066]

Having watched the prog, I find it disturbing that the .44 Russian cartridge is on the obsolete calibres list. Seems to be a bit of a hole in the law with some cartridges being relatively easy to fabricate from other similar cases. A muzzle loading colleague has also been known to fabricate 12 bore BP pinfire cartridges just to see if he could - they worked fine but were far too much trouble to be a worthwhile in quantity. Once again it seems that the law is a little naïve and over simplistic. I suppose given enough resource and motivation almost any cartridge could be home made.

A cut down .410 cartridge will fit any manner of firearms - these criminals are not interested in any sort of accuracy, if it can be physically stuffed in, no matter how loose, it's good to go. More and more regulation just moves the problem. If an antique pistol is commanding £2,500 then there's people out there who would consider the return achieved by making a batch from scratch worthwhile.

[20's plenty]

A cut down .410 cartridge will fit any manner of firearms - these criminals are not interested in any sort of accuracy, if it can be physically stuffed in, no matter how loose, it's good to go. More and more regulation just moves the problem. If an antique pistol is commanding £2,500 then there's people out there who would consider the return achieved by making a batch from scratch worthwhile.

And they are- BBC news yesterday-"Gun factory" uncovered on Hailsham industrial estate.

[tacfoley]

Mods - PLEASE merge the two threads on this subject!

[harry mac]

Having watched the prog, I find it disturbing that the .44 Russian cartridge is on the obsolete calibres list. Seems to be a bit of a hole in the law with some cartridges being relatively easy to fabricate from other similar cases. A muzzle loading colleague has also been known to fabricate 12 bore BP pinfire cartridges just to see if he could - they worked fine but were far too much trouble to be a worthwhile in quantity. Once again it seems that the law is a little naïve and over simplistic. I suppose given enough resource and motivation almost any cartridge could be home made.

They're ALL easy to make if you know what you're doing; but doing so without an FAC is already illegal. That's the whole point of this thread.