Webley Junior---problems

[Benelli B76]

For some reason these newer Juniors tend to put out more power when working nicely. Anyway, I thought you said "No more monkey metal for me" (20/05/18). It is impossible to stay away from it if you are going to be fully into airguns.

Baz

[ggggr]

Just a bit of an update/more musings.
I have been having a tinker with a Senior today and delved into the bits bin to try to sort out some linkages for it. I found a barrel and linkage that would not cock the gun and noticed the long link had a stretched hole at the barrel bracket end. Feeling bored, I used a bit of brass from an aerial
and bushed it. The gun still would not cock so I reversed the cocking shoe and that worked. I'll get round to sorting it soon, BUT in my opinion, barring monster springs being fitted or Proper chimpanzees cocking the pistol, I think most Webley cocking problems start with the cocking shoe wearing and then other problems occur as Mr Chimp uses more force to cock the gun, resulting in stretched links, pulled barrel brackets and worn sears.

I tinkered a bit more and fitted a new spring in the cocking linkage. Becasue I have reversed the cocking shoe, it would stick when closing the barrel, which I guess is becasue the edge of the shoe is squared off. I took a half round file and a rat tail file and chamfered it and the underside a little and it is much better oly sticking about 1 in 6 times. Hopefully it will bed in the last bit without attention. As this is on the spare .177 barrel as I am probably going to use the .22 one, I may just stick a label on it so I know in future if I do swap back.

[johnbaz]

Just a bit of an update/more musings.
I have been having a tinker with a Senior today and delved into the bits bin to try to sort out some linkages for it. I found a barrel and linkage that would not cock the gun and noticed the long link had a stretched hole at the barrel bracket end. Feeling bored, I used a bit of brass from an aerial
and bushed it. The gun still would not cock so I reversed the cocking shoe and that worked. I'll get round to sorting it soon, BUT in my opinion, barring monster springs being fitted or Proper chimpanzees cocking the pistol, I think most Webley cocking problems start with the cocking shoe wearing and then other problems occur as Mr Chimp uses more force to cock the gun, resulting in stretched links, pulled barrel brackets and worn sears.

Hi Guy

Hope you're well mate

I've had a Senior and a Premier that wouldn't cock, The premier had two extra sears with it as the last owner thought it was the sear that was the problem, He had an engineering friend make one which didn't work and then bought one from Knibbs, Still no joy, I paid £8 for the Premier and it turned out to be the 'Hump' at the muzzle end of the cylinder which is brazed in to place, There was wear which wouldn't allow the full cocking stroke to be achieved, I put a bit of weld in to fill the channel then tried to file it to shape- Not a chance!, The 'Hump' was hardened and the carbon was drawn in to the puddle of molten weld wire!!

I had to wrap emery cloth around a file to profile it!

Instant success followed though!!, Had to do it with the Senior too

It's the middle one, Still OK today!!



John