Has anyone used an SMK CP1 Co2 pistol?

[AaronR]

Afternoon!

Have thrown my lad in at the deep end, 10m pistol and rifle.. the club we've started going to has some S200's and he is settling into those nicely, a bit of coaching for positioning, routine and breathing and he is achieving reasonable results

The club has some older FWB 65 pistols which are a bit heavy for him, even two handed, and even my Gamo Compact is a bit weighty (and he can't load it safely)

I'd rather he stuck with rifle as it is an easier discipline to start, and improving results will keep him interested, but he does enjoy pistol - I can't afford the step up to PCP at the moment, and when I can it will (quite selfishly) be for my use, but it would reduce the weight element and improve loading safety for him

Couple of options.. one is the Artemis PP700, but have heard some terrible press about the trigger and shot consistency, it is also quite weighty, and the only other pistol I can find that may be suitable is the SMK CP1 Co2 pistol

https://www.pellpax.co.uk/airguns/ai...r-pistol/12625

Sight line looks a little high, no idea how consistent it will be, numerous youtube howto's on fettling trigger, weight/how it sits in hand is a mystery, but it does have adjustable rear sight (something else the PP700 lacks)

Anyone used one? Got one? Got a brother who's uncles cousins friend once had one? If there is anyone in the Hants/Wilts area that has one I could take for a spin would be really interested in hearing from you

[1066]

Yes, I've got one of each, .22 and .177. (CP 1's)I bought them cheap straight from Europe, Poland maybe, with just the same sort of thing you are looking for in mind. I was quite prepared to do some work, thinking they could be the basis of a cheap target pistol for my grandson, however I never really progressed the project.


They make a great garden tin can shooter, quite powerful, accurate enough, adjustable sights, easy to load, recoilless etc. However, as a starter for 10m pistol I think you would be disappointed (I would be good if there was a competition with everyone shooting them. Formula CP1 ).

Out of the box, the trigger is poor, heavy and creepy - but can be greatly improved with a little tinkering.

It's too powerful but is easily tamed a little by a lighter hammer spring.

It has a very high sight line coupled with a low trigger that it would be difficult to do much about.

The grips are ambidextrous but could be sorted with a little padding and chopping.

The killer for me was it's just not accurate enough - with the pistol clamped in position, with half a dozen different pellets, I couldn't get it group any better than about an inch at 10m. Very demoralising if you think you have shot the perfect shot and find it's an eight. I tried re-crowning and lapping the barrel but not much improvement.
If it was inherently accurate I would have been prepared to spend the time trying to sort the rest out, completely re-engineer the trigger mechanism to bring half an inch higher, new designed rear sight to bring it down half an inch, new target type grips, light weight hammer, move the cocking bolt to the left side etc.

So - fun to shoot but wouldn't be competitive at 10m pistol at even the most basic club level.


Many years ago I did something similar with some Baikal break barrel air rifles for a scout troop - these were cheap as chips but really very accurate. I re-worked the triggers, fitted front and rear aperture sights and an adjustable butt plate, they shot a treat and put up with a lot of abuse for years.

[AaronR]

Thanks 1066

Back to google for more alternatives.. or maybe sell some of my organs and go PCP

[Modski66]

Thanks 1066

Back to google for more alternatives.. or maybe sell some of my organs and go PCP

Moog, Hammond or church?

[Doc1]

How about a LOV 21 target pistol?

£90 new, weighs only 725g. Not used one personally but reviews seem good.

http://sureshot-airguns.co.uk/lov-21/

[zooma]

I have had a Lov 21 for a few years now and remember it needing "a bit of work" but after that it shot ( and still does) quite well.

The first one I bought had to go back to the dealer as it had a bent barrel! It may have only been the plastic moulding that was bent, but when looking over the sights it was like shooting a banana !

The only problem I have had (and still get now and again) is that when fitting a new capsule it can get stuck on the puncture pin in the screw-in cap, but does not let the gas flow.

Removing the full capsule from the pin can be a bit nerve racking

[biker-jeff]

I am now on my 3rd CP1 (wife says its the last one I am allowed to buy )

As per previous, all mine were single shot, last one in .25 cal but first one and this one in .177 cal. I always strip and clean and use John Small Mods, which make a heck of a difference.

This latest one I have ordered a Jake Arthurs stock for, and will be making this one into a bullpup type of pistol, but keeping under the 6flbs. also using a small length scope 2-6x32.

Mine are the SMK Cp1, but you could buy a cheaper version from sportsguns for £60 collected approx £80 delivered to your door.

I don't like the magazines at all on the CP1, hence having single shot ones.

Be worth having a look and fettling, as they are great pistols foe 6-15m

Never heard anything bad about the PP700SA, which is my next purchase as I had one of the original ones, and regretted selling it. I was hitting knockdown targets with is at 27 yards