Ah-haa ... nail, head, hammer and hitting.Originally Posted by thisisdonald
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Ah-haa ... nail, head, hammer and hitting.
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Hasn't hit the nail on the head at all. The Webley of 30+ years ago is no more. Let it go and cherish the quality Webley products of ye old days whilst accepting that the current incarnation of Webley caters to a different market with different products. However if you want to keep raising your collective blood pressures over such an issue please do so.
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I think some of you may have selective memories....
Anyone recall the abortion that was made under the original Webley umbrella called the Stinger....
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Quite collectable now apparently, which is arguably even worse.I think some of you may have selective memories....
Anyone recall the abortion that was made under the original Webley umbrella called the Stinger....
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Only by people who would collect Webley branded toilet brushes and sanitary towel dispensers if they could...Quite collectable now apparently, which is arguably even worse.
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Only because most right thinking people cut them up and burned the pieces just to be sureQuite collectable now apparently, which is arguably even worse.
That’s why they are rare
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I think the original nemesis and the alecto were steps in a new direction, whereas the stinger and this new nemesis are not. As for the traditional webley pistol design being out of date I don't think so.. They could easily revamp the overbarrel design, just look at the baikal mp514k for a recent incarnation of such a setup.
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The original Webley Nemesis was the last of the Webley designed and built Air Pistols, whereas the Alecto was basically just a rebadges Turkish Zoraki.
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Ahh.. I thought the alecto came first and all others were copies... like the hw40.
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The first SSP pistols, were match guns from the late 60s through early/mid 70s like the Walther LP2&3, FAS604, Air Match.
The mid-range SSPs started I think with the Gamo PR-15 and PR-45 as lower-cost derivatives of the Gamo Compact in around 1992-93. Quickly followed by the old (proper) Webley Nemesis in 1994 or 95.
HW saw an opportunity and brought out the HW40/Beeman P3 in 1999.
If you compare the three, they are all the same basic design (as is the HW75). And are based on the FAS.
Yes, you read that right. First Webley, then HW, copied Gamo.
Or, maybe, there is one obvious best way to design an SSP.
Until 1999, Beeman had been selling Webley Nemesises (is that the correct plural?) in the US. He immediately dropped the Webley and sold the HW instead - another nail in old Webley’s coffin. Truth be told, the HW is probably a better pistol (and the Gamo ain’t bad, and was cheaper).
The “Webley” (Zoracki) Alecto arrived on the scene about ten years ago, and is no longer sold as a “Webley”. Which is almost a shame as it’s one of the few modern “Webleys” that actually seems quite good (even if I think it looks stupid).
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I did a wee bit of research as well and as far as I can tell, the alecto was manufactured for webley by atakarms, webley then dropped it and atakarms started producing it for themselves. Zoraki seems to be the designation the company gives all it's pistols.
I've had the nemesis, pr15 and my favourite which I should never have sold, fwb100.. what a beauty! One If like the nemesis as well though.. the pr15 I got when they came out, it kept pinching my hand when closing so I got rid.
Last edited by thisisdonald; 03-10-2018 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Clarity
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I had a quick play with one of these on Friday. The grip is at the wrong angle for me.Once fitted with a silencer it is very quiet, ideal for back garden plinking so as not to disturb the neighbours,
but once you fit a silencer you cant see down the open sights.
The 'key' to piercing the CO2 capsule is in the pistol grip so is the magazine and I found it fiddly to use. The trigger??? Pasable for a plinker. I didn't get a chance to test it for accuracy. Interchangeable bolt, leftie or righty, is a great idea.
IMO far better than the old, over barrel cocking Wobblys.
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I've put a review in the review section
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Now that there's more/better pictures available, I don't think the new Nemesis looks that bad.
Alakar's review filled in the holes in the AGW piece, namely that there's some adjustability to the sights and the shot count is a respectable 55.
Would still like to know if the gun is based on a CP1 though, which, in my view, wouldn't do it any harm at all.
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