WHY do rapids bring silly money now

[fife]

WHY do rapids bring silly money now they seem to bring more now then when they were made new, is it me but all the lads i new that used them because of power and easy to work on , they have no filler gauge on and look very dated, and i have had lots over the years and they are canny guns but its the silly money that shocks me every time, we have moved on now look at the quality guns you can buy for the silly money they ask for a rapid , ATB FIFE.

[angrybear]

If we've moved on so far what has replaced it ?

Basic, simple to work on, huge shot count, highly accurate, superb ergonomics & British made.

The modern equivalent top rifle is £1300-£1800, so a rapid at £500-£700 still looks like a good choice to me.

[fife]

If we've moved on so far what has replaced it ?

Basic, simple to work on, huge shot count, highly accurate, superb ergonomics & British made.

The modern equivalent top rifle is £1300-£1800, so a rapid at £500-£700 still looks like a good choice to me.

HI All, there are british made guns very accurat with a buddy bottel even a air gauge on lol, and not £1300 -£1800 ,and look a lot nicer but it was the price, I found 10 or more yrs ago what rapids that was about had been well tamped with one way or another but its the price , I often wonder why thoben when bust ,and you cannot blame who took them over,atb fife

[Tim_B]

Agree the prices are going up...and I think most has been said about them.....the untouched examples are getting rarer. Unless you are a collector it's almost worth getting a tatty example and having the shed tuning wizards work on them to bring them up to what they should be. Even untouched examples aren't the best they can be...Theoben QC wasn't all that, so having the parts paired with the block (or new machined parts) means that they can pretty much match anything out there today.

Thanks
Tim B

[fife]

Agree the prices are going up...and I think most has been said about them.....the untouched examples are getting rarer. Unless you are a collector it's almost worth getting a tatty example and having the shed tuning wizards work on them to bring them up to what they should be. Even untouched examples aren't the best they can be...Theoben QC wasn't all that, so having the parts paired with the block (or new machined parts) means that they can pretty much match anything out there today.

Thanks
Tim B

well put tim.

[clueless]

Personally I have gone back to Rapids due to disapointment with the current crop of rifles, which seem to be universally gaining in price, and diminishing in quality. A well set up Rapid is as accurate as any sporter available on the new market and more reliable to boot. Maintenance or fixing any problems is cheap and simple and they can be a great basis for a custom build if thats your thing.

I love them and as mentioned a good one is still less than a lot of the generic tat flooding the market these days

Andy..

[angrybear]

HI All, there are british made guns very accurat with a buddy bottel even a air gauge on lol, and not £1300 -£1800 ,and look a lot nicer but it was the price, I found 10 or more yrs ago what rapids that was about had been well tamped with one way or another but its the price , I often wonder why thoben when bust ,and you cannot blame who took them over,atb fife

So what are these guns ??

And yes you can blame the people who took Theoben over, because they were in charge when it happened.

[fife]

HI,Bsa r10 nice looking guns very accurat lots of shots, allso daystate air ranger or wolverin or wolf lots of shots and supper accurit, and both companys are thriveing ,and i am not talking about tuned gun as they all can be made beter i am on about out of the box without spending cash on them , i have had daystate for years now and only have realy good things to say about them , like all guns you allways get a odd bad one the bigest problem is low power but that down to law now and bad press.i have to daystate which outstanding with accuracy .ATB fife

[Drake267]

Bob, youre never going to win this one mate. The rapids have an almost cult following. I know. My mfr was awesome. Should have kept it. Ive had a couple of r10's, one tuned and huma regged. Still didnt rate it and in all honesty, you couldnt give me another. Never had a daystate but did like how comfy your mk4 was when you had it down yesterday. Not keen on electrics in rifles though. Had a few rapids over the years and if it was a choice between a rapid, bsa or a daystate it would be a rapid everytime. I do find the bolt a bit clunky compared to a hw100 sidelever but they are great rifles. My mk2 i bought from new was a great gun, never serviced in 10yrs and never missed a beat.

[angrybear]

HI,Bsa r10 nice looking guns very accurat lots of shots, allso daystate air ranger or wolverin or wolf lots of shots and supper accurit, and both companys are thriveing ,and i am not talking about tuned gun as they all can be made beter i am on about out of the box without spending cash on them , i have had daystate for years now and only have realy good things to say about them , like all guns you allways get a odd bad one the bigest problem is low power but that down to law now and bad press.i have to daystate which outstanding with accuracy .ATB fife

R10 is certainly a good looking rifle but as is well known has been plagued with problems, are they now sorted ? I'm not sure.
It hardly qualifies as being anywhere near the same class either.

The £1300-£1800 price I quoted are Daystate prices from a well known shop, Even the classic "everyman's starter" PCP the S410 is now £700+ from the same dealer

So I'd say that you have supported my post#2 not contradicted it.

[jumbuck]

If we've moved on so far what has replaced it ?

Basic, simple to work on, huge shot count, highly accurate, superb ergonomics & British made.

The modern equivalent top rifle is £1300-£1800, so a rapid at £500-£700 still looks like a good choice to me.

Everything angrybear says, I've had a 30ft/lbs one for 18 years and still an awesome reliable dependable bit of kit. The only thing that spoilt mine was that joke of the GAMO trigger but fitting a Charlie Tuna kit sort that problem

[JLB]

Market driven. As long as people keep paying the high prices for them you would be silly to advertise one for less if you had one to sell. I agree, even tatty, tinkered with MK1's are fetching £500 or more. However pitted against some of the more modern stuff at over £1000 some might think an excellent condition second hand Rapid at £750 a good deal.

John

[Top Gun FX2000]

Never liked them when they 1st came out the main reason been the big buddy bottle on the front, But after shooting one things changed fast i now have three and just love them, I have an early mk1 in .22 with profile stock No 002280 a late mk1 in .22 with a ambi stock No 020161 and one of the very last rapids made also in .22 cal with the scalloped block and sentinel ambi stock No 026428 PS I would put a photo of them to share with you all but i have not got a clue how to do it but if one of you good kind people pm me i can send you a photo to put on kind regards Steve

[ken69]

I have an ad in wanted for an untampered with example. I must admit I thought they were pants when they first appeared on the market and the ugliest rifle I had ever seen but now I really like the late Mk1 and the Mk2. They are easy to work on (once you have taken on board all the advice and help that's available), accurate, reliable, high shot count and handle well. Yes they have their downside, the biggest being that a lot of examples have been trashed internally and it is pretty difficult if not impossible to tell when buying one unless you can really try it out, but I think they have many more positives than negatives. I agree prices have gone crazy though, and I wouldn't pay anywhere near some of the prices being asked for some untampered with examples, but I would happily pay reasonable money for one and agree very closely with Angrybears take on prices. Like everything they are only worth what people are prepared to pay

[lensman57]

WHY do rapids bring silly money now they seem to bring more now then when they were made new, is it me but all the lads i new that used them because of power and easy to work on , they have no filler gauge on and look very dated, and i have had lots over the years and they are canny guns but its the silly money that shocks me every time, we have moved on now look at the quality guns you can buy for the silly money they ask for a rapid , ATB FIFE.

For the same reason people pay stupid money for broken ' French/Italian ' style chairs and other antiques that have no consequnce on the culture of humanity. Rapids were like Harley Davidson, agricultural, crude but easy to mess with. In their favour due to the grade of LW barrels used they were highly accurate particularly in FAC versions.

A.G