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Didn't the poster with the issues fall out with his mate over this and hasn't it been done a million times before?
Is there going to be any explanation about the family bereavement excuse?
From an outsider looking in this seems a petty squabble and I dont mean any disrespect to either side there. Can the board have some clarity who is responsible for the whos, whys and whatever's?
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From what I can see:Originally Posted by pumpygun
Carl at Airtech is a very capable gunsmith, sometimes treats his customers poorly, makes up excuses for delays and can be very childish.
You pays yer money..
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very well said phil,, he ( Carl Airtech ) has been caught red handed lying, giving someone an excuse that the reason his rifle hasn,t been done is because his mother in law has just passed away in china ,,, my god he is such a liar ( Carl Airtech ) he basically used this excuse to myself and a couple of others on here over 12 months ago and has basically just given someone else the same excuse in the last couple of days,, so basically his mother in law died over 12 months ago and has just died again in the last couple of days ha ha ha ha what a beaut,,,
message to Carl,, stop telling people Carl that i have been banned for spreading rumours, this is another one of your lies, i have NEVER been banned off another forum mate and you know it so stop trying to take the whole lying affair off yourself , you have finally been seen for who you really are ,, a lying lying lying idiot, sorry buddy but you have just made a total fool of yourself, so come on carl please explain how the excuse " the mother in law has died AGAIN " has been used 14 months after she first died, dont be slating me to try and get out of it because that wont wash with all the decent people on this forum including myself,
you and your business carl are looking frail at the moment with all the LIES you are spreading and the attitude you are showing to the people whom had faith in your work, sorry Carl but people will now and have seen you for what you really are a LIAR,,,,
Karma Carl pure Karma except this one had absolutely NOTHING to do with me, you made ME out to be the liar last time and guess what its back fired and YOU yourself have done it all by using a SICK excuse twice because you forgot you had used this SICK excuse before, you need help saying such sickening lies and i doubt your wife would stand by you if she knew just what a lying person you are,
i walk round with my head held very very high,
certainly cant say the same for yourself after being caught LYING again,
nighty night Airtech,
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hi pumpygun, ive not fallen out with my buddy at all , we still shoot together everyweek, this is carl lying again to try and pass the book across to me, he is basically talking total rubbish mate, and there are people on here reading this now who want to comment but cant as this will cause conflict between them and mr LIAR Garbutt as he still has there guns
i like you and everyone else are also waiting for an explanation as to why he has told numerous different people with a gap of approx 14 months that his wifes mother has died TWICE which is the reason THEIR rifles cannot be completed, it was not me mate that caught him lying but another member on here, he has had some peoples rifles over 3 years, my shooting buddys rifles took just over 2 years to get back and one of those wasnt even the correct serial number but thats another story, he is bitter because NOT ME but someone else on here has caught him lying through his teeth and its a dispicable excuse saying your wifes mother has died, the guy is seriously mental using that excuse not once but twice, so come on Carl please let everyone know why you would say such a sickening thing
A bit of a womble!
Possibly the most disappointing thread I have ever seen on here. To see a member using the death of a family member to suit a purpose brings things to a new low. Very low.
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I have to agree.
He also hasn't addressed any of the questions aimed at him or the issues raised, just came on and had a go at people.
I for one will definitely never deal with Airtech, so its a NO DEAL from me.
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I do not remember ever asking you to deal with me. So that’s ok people can and will deal with who they want.I have to agree.
He also hasn't addressed any of the questions aimed at him or the issues raised, just came on and had a go at people.
I for one will definitely never deal with Airtech, so its a NO DEAL from me.
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Last reply from me on anything relating to this The guy in question bought some carbon from my wife on her e bay. The problem lies with him and her it’s nothing to do with me or what I do. I do not need to be getting involved with any of this yet I have talked with my wife as soon as I was informed about the carbon issue. She has informed me and I also have informed the guy who bought the carbon she will 100% sort it out on her return to the Uk. As far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it.
You can all assume what you want. Yes in the past a few white lies have I told people to give me time to get things sorted when I was inundated with work. And a awful lot of bull shit has been put up against me by people may I add who have never had anything ever done by me.
I also do not have to explain my personal life to everyone when anything ref me is mentioned. No tuner of any rifle is perfect if anyone was to search any of the top tuners you will find issues people have had. But again non of my concern. A lot of people I meet should not even have a gun and a lot of rfd probably feel the same.
Anyway end of all posts of me. I don’t need this. I don’t advertise for work on this site I don’t need to.
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It’s sad to this this argument on the site. One thing though telling some one that your mother in law has died is a fair statement but the to use the excuse a second time is I must say out of order.
It’s bugger all to do with me if I was going to send a rifle to you for work to be carried out I would rapidly change my mind after reading this thread.
So my advice is to come clean admit you told porky pies.
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The guy didn't know your wife had "nicked" your business name without your knowledge..., he believed he was dealing with your company.
As for the "white lies", a "double death story" beggars belief.
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Well that’s news to me, first time I knew your wife was away, was on this thread. I have not received any emails from her in recent weeks. The last email I had was included a screen shot of your conversation with the courier about the missing item. YOUR name is on that screen shot 9 times. While it does not mention me by name, you refer to me as “MY customer “ it is possible that you ( or your wife) mistakenly sent me the email, although I doubt that.
As for telling lies, you have repeatedly accused me of not telling the truth, however, apparently saying that one of your relatives has died, to you is just a “white lie”.
Seriously Carl, your moral compass is totally ****** up
The sad thing is, all it is over £16, a simple, “sorry, I will deal with, ASAP”
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I have no business with Carl and just take people how I find them. I've followed this thread and others like it, as it seems to keep cropping up.
I try not to read too much into Facebook posts but you only have to spend a few minutes trawling through to see the attitude spilling out, lies or not. A psychologist would probably come to the conclusion that there is a lot of self loathing in there.
I note that the first mother in law death occurred last October - this coincides with a thread on another forum stating as such and referring to a facebook post. Curiously all posts on FB at this point have either been deleted or never happened. The later posts (late October and early November) don't refer to any funerals, although he does make reference to being in China for an extended time. So perhaps the MIL was ill or passed away last October?
By comparison to other independent rfds who fall ill or have some problems, I often see them post on forums themselves to advise of this or ask for someone to do it on their behalf. People appreciate this sort of personal touch.
To a customer Airtech is Airtech, regardless of the email address. If your wife is trading as AirTech too how on earth is anyone supposed to second guess that?
As I said I have no beef with Carl, and his work is clearly respected by a lot of people. If you read this Mr AirTech then my advice would be to stop the ranting and excuses and starting looking after your business... and quite rightly you can tell me to mind mine too
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Absolutely disgusting behaviour to lie about a relative dying. Shame on you!
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You need to get your facts right Roger informs me he does not see or speak with you any more. I wonder why. 2 I do not have anyone’s rifles who is not aware that I’m out of the country you can slate me off all you want it will never effect what I do FACT
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