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  1. #1
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    Wink

    The £125 would rule out my CP88 long barrel
    You do have a habit of stopping my guns Lol
    Alisha would be fine though with her SMK VICTORY
    She’s always up for shooting that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbeam View Post
    The £125 would rule out my CP88 long barrel
    You do have a habit of stopping my guns Lol
    Alisha would be fine though with her SMK VICTORY
    She’s always up for shooting that !
    Hi Rob,

    The price cap that I have suggested was only that ( a starting point for the discussion), and I would welcome any contributions to advise what inexpensive CO2 pistols should be considered for this proposed MPL postal series and the typical price that we have to pay for them.

    As long as the CO2 pistols are single shot and .177 - and fit into the "inexpensive" category - it would be good to have them mentioned here.

    Hope your first MPL competition is going well for you and Alisha

    Bob.
    Rossendale Target Shooting Club. Every Tuesday and Thursday evening 7 - 10pm.

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    I was only pulling your leg
    My CP88 is multi shot anyway, so wouldn’t count for that reason as well
    I can’t quite remember what her Victory cost, but I’d very much consider the cost of that postol as the maximum as it is very popular and to be honest, very basic. I’d think about £150 maybe better, as that would cover the extra some small shops charge (like ours!).

    Maybe worth making an ‘approved’ list rather than price as already suggested?
    If ‘your’ pistol is not on ‘the list’, the shooter could offer it’s inclusion with evidence of it’s cost and if ‘the board’ deem it OK, it can be added to ‘the list’.

    Replica league.

    Personally I’d consider an all replica pellet firing CO2 pistol league, multi shot or single, as I think all fun replica CO2 pistols are fairly inaccurate and cheap enough to be about the same. Making a replica pistol league would include a massive amount of potential shooters as most of us have a CO2 replica of some sort

    I also don't think cost should be the defining factor as for example my CP88 cost about £35 more because it's the nickel version, but the nickel is purely cosmetic.
    Last edited by MrChipShoulder; 14-11-2018 at 10:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbeam View Post
    Maybe worth making an ‘approved’ list rather than price as already suggested?
    If ‘your’ pistol is not on ‘the list’, the shooter could offer it’s inclusion with evidence of it’s cost and if ‘the board’ deem it OK, it can be added to ‘the list’.
    I think this may be a way to go, where is the line drawn on price?

    Would it be the 'as new' value?
    What about second hand purchases, or out of production models that are no longer available?

    I could go on...

    The spirit of the idea does seem to be about a 'budget carbon league', so excluding 'true' CO2 target pistols should not be too difficult, (even second hand prices are still quite high anyway).

    What do people think about modifications?

    Modest tweaks like the LOV parts are brilliant, but what about the amount of aftermarket upgrades for Crosmans, for example?
    Too many guns, or not enough time?

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    An open class pellet firing only, Co2 replica pistol class with barrels no longer than 'X' would be a good class.
    Forget price,

    Does it look like a real gun?
    Is it Co2?
    Is it's barrel under X?
    Does it fire pellets?

    If yes to all, it's good to go, multi shot or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbeam View Post
    An open class pellet firing only, Co2 replica pistol class with barrels no longer than 'X' would be a good class.
    Forget price,

    Does it look like a real gun?
    Is it Co2?
    Is it's barrel under X?
    Does it fire pellets?

    If yes to all, it's good to go, multi shot or not
    On the UBC we already have such a competition. It's part of the Vintage & Open comp & new shooters are always welcome. It's a good time to join as well as the new season started 1st November. Each round is open for a calendar month, with 6 rounds making up the season.

    http://www.ubccompetition.btck.co.uk...ntageOpenRules
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    Been there, bought it, tried it, sold it

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    Dear all,

    I wanted to warmly thank 1066 for his Drulov kit !
    it is wonderful !

    I made photos and a survey were everyone can vote for his Budget single shot pistol for 10 meters or less..
    In France people do not know Lov21 model so did not get many votes...
    feel free to come and vote, and maybe see pictures of 1066´s kit ...

    link to the permanent survey :
    http://www.forum-airguns.com/t81844-...e-10m-ou-moins

    the parameters are :
    .177
    single shot
    less than €150

    in page 15 you will see pictures of 1066 Drulov kit...

    feel free to write what you want If you want.
    You can even write that Carlos Ghosn, CEO of Renault group is an asshole If you want...��
    but in this particular section, we prefer talking about budget single shooters !

    good evening !

    merci beaucoup
    Drulov/Lovna/Terčová/Brno Lov 21 4.5/CP1 4.5-CP1-M 4.5-CP2 4.5/Crosman 2250 XL-2300T-1377/Stoeger XP4 sales: CP1-M .22 - Dan Wesson 2.5"pellet -Mini Uzi replica BB (full auto)-Taurus P92 replica BB "full auto" (Beretta 92 brésilien)- Gamo PT85.

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    I would think if you rule out pukka target pistols then the great leveller is "one handed, open sights, 10 meters"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1066 View Post
    I would think if you rule out pukka target pistols then the great leveller is "one handed, open sights, 10 meters"
    Yes to all of the above, except the distance; the MPL is 6 metres because not many people have access to a 10m range, but can generally rig up 6m at home.
    Too many guns, or not enough time?

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    Dear not so far neighbours,

    Please visit our Czech friends at
    http://www.kentaurguns.com/
    their original Czech site is www.kentaurzbrane.cz
    zbrane meaning "gunsmith" I think...
    try "Lov21" or "lov 21" in the search engine up the "zbrane" page...
    I bought mine from them, shipment took 3/4 days from Praha to Montmartre, Paris.

    Their stock is small, but they are quite close to their distributors.
    I bought the 8g capsule flavor and ordered 12g spare caps.....

    You can choose Euro up right the web page, sorry They would not let you pay in pounds...
    for PayPal, they charge you 3 euros...
    shipping to Paris was €20 but was fast and against signature....
    PayPal is a bit expensive in terms of changing moneys.
    pardon my poor English...

    We have Artemis CP1/2 I think is the same as your "victory" or "SMK" or "Kandar"
    Crosman 1377 is €88 in France so It could do your Challenge as well...
    it's 10" barrel makes it a good shooter...

    @1066 : Please make some room in your mailbox... I cannot post to you !
    Please send me your email in MP !


    I hope this helps
    Your devoted frog from Montmartre.
    Last edited by nogolem; 14-11-2018 at 05:08 PM.
    Drulov/Lovna/Terčová/Brno Lov 21 4.5/CP1 4.5-CP1-M 4.5-CP2 4.5/Crosman 2250 XL-2300T-1377/Stoeger XP4 sales: CP1-M .22 - Dan Wesson 2.5"pellet -Mini Uzi replica BB (full auto)-Taurus P92 replica BB "full auto" (Beretta 92 brésilien)- Gamo PT85.

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