Crosman Town & Country 107

[jirushi]

These are such nice rifles; everything is brass even the barrel spacer. Dead accurate and the easiest pumper I have to pump. And very quiet.

I agree. It's very easy to pump, much easier than my Blue Streak and 140. And a lot quieter indeed. The Blue Streak is more powerful though, and I can use it for plinking with 2 or 3 pumps, whereas I've found that the T&C needs at least 6. But those are 6 easy pumps. It's very accurate and well balanced and the trigger is great. They sure knew what they were doing when they designed the T&C! It had to compete with the Sheridan Super Grade. I saw a Super Grade got sold for silly money the other day on Gunbroker. I'd love to buy one one day, but they are above my budget atm...

[Huttles94]

May I ask how you got it over here? I have seen a few Crosmans on fleabay usa and I would love to be able to import one (or two )

Cheers

[jirushi]

May I ask how you got it over here? I have seen a few Crosmans on fleabay usa and I would love to be able to import one (or two )

Cheers

Good morning, there's a company in California called Airgun Exporter, which is run by a Dutch man called Vincent van Gerven.
If you want I can pm you his contact details. I buy something on Fleabay, have it sent to Vincent, and then Vincent sends it to Europe and takes care of all the paperwork.
I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, but my parcels go to Belgium, as apparently customs are better in Belgium. At Schiphol Airport they sometimes stay for "inspection" for months. This Belgium way has worked very well so far. I've used both UPS and USPS. USPS is much cheaper and it was actually quicker and easier too.
Vincent might know about possibilities to send to the UK. I'm sure it's legal, it's just a question of whether the customs officials know the law and what they have in their hands.
Cheers

[Mark D]

Hey Louis, that's a nice find, looks in great original condition.

Well done and good luck with the re seal.

If you get stuck, you know who to call

[--ped--]

if your stuck for a tool let me know Louis I can always knock one up for you

[jirushi]

if your stuck for a tool let me know Louis I can always knock one up for you

Thank you very much for your offer ped. I'll let you know, cheers.

@45flint, I mean that with the Blue Streak, I have found that 3 pumps give enough "umpf" to do some tin can plinking. I've tested up to 30 meters, and it's accurate.
With the T&C, I need to pump at least 6 times to get enough power to do any shooting.

[45flint]

Thank you very much for your offer ped. I'll let you know, cheers.

@45flint, I mean that with the Blue Streak, I have found that 3 pumps give enough "umpf" to do some tin can plinking. I've tested up to 30 meters, and it's accurate.
With the T&C, I need to pump at least 6 times to get enough power to do any shooting.

I think your T&C is just not giving full power? Here are my numbers this morning with Crosman Premiers 14.3 22 cal.

Pumps. FPS
3. 433
6. 580
8. 626

At 8 pumps the average Streak is just about the same, maybe a little higher. I asked that question of Streak owners this year on another forum, low to mid 600s

That’s why it will be fascinating to see what your new one will do with a reseal. I’m betting your surprised, it looks to be pretty much untouched? I don’t think I’ve ever seen Chrony numbers for a .177.

[Mark D]

Good morning, there's a company in California called Airgun Exporter, which is run by a Dutch man called Vincent van Gerven.
If you want I can pm you his contact details. I buy something on Fleabay, have it sent to Vincent, and then Vincent sends it to Europe and takes care of all the paperwork.
I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, but my parcels go to Belgium, as apparently customs are better in Belgium. At Schiphol Airport they sometimes stay for "inspection" for months. This Belgium way has worked very well so far. I've used both UPS and USPS. USPS is much cheaper and it was actually quicker and easier too.
Vincent might know about possibilities to send to the UK. I'm sure it's legal, it's just a question of whether the customs officials know the law and what they have in their hands.
Cheers

Don't get your hopes up, as they no longer ship to GB

[danco1987]

Don't get your hopes up, as they no longer ship to GB

No reason why a sub 12 fpe air rifle cannot be sent to you in the UK from the states. I've had complete crosman air rifles (pumpers- 1377s and 2289s) sent in the past from the USA and Canada, one off fleabay, also parts including barrels etc all sent to me direct. Seller would simply label what was in the parcel or "sub 12ftlbs UK legal airgun" and only ever had one stopped and checked by customs, a 1377, which was let through after a little delay. Why are there issues now?

[Geezer]

A small note of caution.

A lot of the nicest American guns hover dangerously around the U.K. power limits. (One reason the U.K. rifle limit was set, at the urging of the U.K. makers, was to prevent their import and sale, at a time when Webley MkIIIs and BSA Airsporters typically made 9-11 ft-lbs.)

As you can see above, 45’s T&C made 12.45 ft-lbs.

As do many of the older Crosmans and Benjis. Especially in .22” - the .177”s are more likely to top out around 10-11.

Unmodified Sheridan C9s in good condition always break the limit, typically making 13 or 14 ft-lbs.

Even the cheapy Crosman 2200s can slightly exceed 12. Not always, but sometimes.

Pistols can be tricky too. For example I’ve seen a US test of a Crosman 150 CO2 pistol (the better-made grandfather of the 2240) that produced around 5.7 with Premiers. That’s a bit close for comfort if a forensic tester tried a more efficient (slightly heavier, better fit to barrel?) pellet in a centrally-heated lab.

There are of course loads of US air guns that will always be safely legal to import. Sadly, some of the best ones, in US form (not those modified for the U.K. market) are either consistently over our limit or sometimes over.

[45flint]

I find it the oddest thing that the Crosman T&C’s are so quiet. At three pumps for plinking it is like there is a silencer on it? My Silver Streak is Sterioded so it sounds at times like a real rifle. There must be some difference in the way the air is released? Could it be all that brass muffles the sound?

[--ped--]

it's only the 140's that are difficult to limit and for all mine I use a blow off piston similar to the uk sharps and uk model of the later c9a bluestreaks
all the other ones can be limited by normal methods

[Eagleman]

Good morning, there's a company in California called Airgun Exporter, which is run by a Dutch man called Vincent van Gerven.
If you want I can pm you his contact details. I buy something on Fleabay, have it sent to Vincent, and then Vincent sends it to Europe and takes care of all the paperwork.
I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, but my parcels go to Belgium, as apparently customs are better in Belgium. At Schiphol Airport they sometimes stay for "inspection" for months. This Belgium way has worked very well so far. I've used both UPS and USPS. USPS is much cheaper and it was actually quicker and easier too.
Vincent might know about possibilities to send to the UK. I'm sure it's legal, it's just a question of whether the customs officials know the law and what they have in their hands.
Cheers

That is damn good advice Louis to all on here re possible export items from the USA.

For that advice alone I vote you TOP MAN!

[jirushi]

That is damn good advice Louis to all on here re possible export items from the USA.

For that advice alone I vote you TOP MAN!

Haha thank you Eagleman

[45flint]

Good morning, there's a company in California called Airgun Exporter, which is run by a Dutch man called Vincent van Gerven.
If you want I can pm you his contact details. I buy something on Fleabay, have it sent to Vincent, and then Vincent sends it to Europe and takes care of all the paperwork.
I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, but my parcels go to Belgium, as apparently customs are better in Belgium. At Schiphol Airport they sometimes stay for "inspection" for months. This Belgium way has worked very well so far. I've used both UPS and USPS. USPS is much cheaper and it was actually quicker and easier too.
Vincent might know about possibilities to send to the UK. I'm sure it's legal, it's just a question of whether the customs officials know the law and what they have in their hands.
Cheers

Curious if Vincent imports European airguns for sale in the US?