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    Cocked, loaded and posted!

    I took delivery of a rather nice late model LP53 today.
    It was delivered by PF48.
    It was also delivered cocked with a pellet in the breech

    Fortunately, the seller texted me to say he may have left a pellet in.
    I asked if it was cocked too. He apologised saying he didn't know!

    Forewarned, I opened the parcel with extra caution and safely discharged the pistol.

    Potential for a serious accident there.
    The Mayor: Intent? How did you establish that?
    Harry Callahan: When a man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher’s knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn’t out collecting for the Red Cross.

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    scary and surreal in equal measure...
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    I had the same with a Daisy bb gun.
    Gassed loaded and ready to go!

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    Cocked but thankfully not loaded

    A Sharp Innova I took delivery off a few years ago,I'd asked the seller, does it hold air?.

    As if to prove a point it arrived cocked and charged.

    Could have caused quite a stir at at the parcelforce sorting depot

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    Just goes to show: Never take anyone's word that a gun in unloaded. Always check yourself.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Just goes to show: Never take anyone's word that a gun in unloaded. Always check yourself.

    John
    Indeed. And always handle a gun as if it was loaded and ready to go.
    The Mayor: Intent? How did you establish that?
    Harry Callahan: When a man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher’s knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn’t out collecting for the Red Cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Just goes to show: Never take anyone's word that a gun in unloaded. Always check yourself.

    John
    Too damn right,I reminded a friend that I couldn't help but notice that after a lengthy conversation with another shooter he'd put his HW8O back in its slip cocked and loaded.
    Na! was the reply,he promptly shot a hole through the slip.

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    I was visiting knibbs's for some air gun spares a number of years ago and the fellow on the till described to me how a chap had recently come in with a firearm for sale.When it was inspected it was found to be cocked and with a round in the chamber!!

    The careless fellow was immediately escorted from the premises and told to never return,understandably.

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    lp53

    I answered Neil on 19th. December on his wanting a lp53 pistol, but just to put the record straight it was not me that finally sold him one of my
    examples.I have got more sense than that being a registered gun referee and safety officer at local shooting grounds etc.
    Roly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piggy589 View Post
    Too damn right,I reminded a friend that I couldn't help but notice that after a lengthy conversation with another shooter he'd put his HW8O back in its slip cocked and loaded.
    Na! was the reply,he promptly shot a hole through the slip.
    I once had to 'remind' an ex serviceman to keep his Webley Tracker pointed downrange whilst at the club. He was waving it about with his finger on the trigger at the time and tried to assure me it was fine, as the rifle was not loaded. He then pulled the trigger to prove his point and made a neat hole in the roof of the club's covered range.

    John

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    Nobody has ever improved on Jeff Coopers four rules of gun safety. If you keep to these you will never have a problem.

    Baz
    BE AN INDEPENDENT THINKER, DON'T FOLLOW THE CROWD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benelli B76 View Post
    Nobody has ever improved on Jeff Coopers four rules of gun safety. If you keep to these you will never have a problem.

    Baz
    And, they are?
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadacowboy View Post
    And, they are?
    Rule One: All guns are always loaded.
    Rule Two: Never let the muzzle cover anything which you are not willing to destroy.
    Rule Three: Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
    Rule Four: Always be sure of your target.
    The Mayor: Intent? How did you establish that?
    Harry Callahan: When a man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher’s knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn’t out collecting for the Red Cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadacowboy View Post
    And, they are?
    Surprised you never Googled it. Colonel Jeff Cooper was a prolific author and firearms trainer, gave regular speeches on his life experiences, and life in general. Brilliant combat trainer, had a school on his ranch.

    Baz
    BE AN INDEPENDENT THINKER, DON'T FOLLOW THE CROWD

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    You only have to work behind the counter of a gun shop for a short while before you see your first potential disaster waiting to happen. You soon learn to 'dis trust' the customer and check for yourself that the rifle they are handing you isn't loaded. Ive been passed cocked and loaded air rifles several times plus rimmie and full bores with the bolt in an forwards. :-(
    Ive seen loaded FAC Rapids passed to my fellow staff and heard of a double barrel 10 bore with live cartridges and NOT snap caps as the owner stated.

    As we all know - treat a gun as loaded until YOU know it isn't.

    Have a Happy & safe 2019.

    ATB
    Ian
    Founder & ex secretary of Rivington Riflemen.
    www.rivington-riflemen.uk

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