Beeman C1

[45flint]

Bought this C-1 at a gunshow this year always interested me and it was a great price; perfect condition. No Saftey.

https://imgur.com/a/XCBuuE5

[Thegreg]

Does anyone know the approximate ratio between .177 & .22 models produced?

Cheers
Greg

[Geezer]

Does anyone know the approximate ratio between .177 & .22 models produced?

Cheers
Greg

I think every C1 I have seen in the U.K. was a .22”. Which makes sense in what’s basically a barn gun, and is also consistent with the 80s conviction that .22” was “more powerful”, “the hunting calibre”, “a man’s gun” etc, with .177”s only really suitable for target shooting or for pathetic weakling oddballs.

Whereas, by the 1970s, and certainly the 80s, the American market had got obsessed with muzzle velocity, and hence focussed on .177”.

So I strongly suspect that, in the round, the calibre split for the C1 was less unbalanced than, say, the Vulcan, which was mostly a U.K. market gun and made 90% (educated guess) in .22”.

So most of the .177”s are in the States. Most of the .22”s are in the U.K. Tightened (silly) import and export rules in both countries mean they are now mostly staying where they are.

By the way, I think the US market C1s were made to “export standard”, making somewhere between 11.99 and 14 ft-lbs.

[Thegreg]

I think every C1 I have seen in the U.K. was a .22”. Which makes sense in what’s basically a barn gun, and is also consistent with the 80s conviction that .22” was “more powerful”, “the hunting calibre”, “a man’s gun” etc, with .177”s only really suitable for target shooting or for pathetic weakling oddballs.

Whereas, by the 1970s, and certainly the 80s, the American market had got obsessed with muzzle velocity, and hence focussed on .177”.

So I strongly suspect that, in the round, the calibre split for the C1 was less unbalanced than, say, the Vulcan, which was mostly a U.K. market gun and made 90% (educated guess) in .22”.

So most of the .177”s are in the States. Most of the .22”s are in the U.K. Tightened (silly) import and export rules in both countries mean they are now mostly staying where they are.

By the way, I think the US market C1s were made to “export standard”, making somewhere between 11.99 and 14 ft-lbs.

Interesting. It was as I suspected really, when I think about it very few Vulcan's turn up in .177.

My C1 is actually in .177, but I do recall seeing other C1's in this calibre too.

Oddly mine came with a 7" slim Venom silencer fitted (as well as the original sights in a bag) which I'm desperate to remove and put back to standard. Only thing is the silencer is stuck on good and solid and I'm working on getting it off without damage to either item.

Cheers
Greg

[bcham]

Bought this C-1 at a gunshow this year always interested me and it was a great price; perfect condition. No Saftey.

https://imgur.com/a/XCBuuE5

i had the exact same c1 in the 80s mine was shooting very close to the legal limit had it fitted with a red dot sight,and shot lots of grey squirrels with it, great stock without the pistol grip, very quick and easy to aim and fire,

[jirushi]

Bought this C-1 at a gunshow this year always interested me and it was a great price; perfect condition. No Saftey.

https://imgur.com/a/XCBuuE5

Very nice. How does it shoot? And what velocities do you get? Is it a .22?

[45flint]

Very nice. How does it shoot? And what velocities do you get? Is it a .22?

Its a .177 and shoots Hobbys at 875, so about 12 foot pound. No safety early model. It’s a very interesting gun in that it’s so unusual with the English straight stock and carbine length. It shoots very accurately but certainly has a springer jolt to it. I haven’t shot it very much and need to get back at it. It was a impulse buy at one of my first gun shows, it’s seemed way too cheap for a perfect example, knew I could sell it later for more if I didn’t like it. It’s one of Tom Gaylord’s favorite guns, he says this gun taught him the artillary hold.

I agree it’s probably best with open sights, the scope rail has no stops. The scope rail dead ends into the end cap which “supplies” shape edges to tear into your scope mounts as they want to move back. Probably could have worked something out but just went back to open sights which I think make sense with a carbine anyway.

Here it is with a Diana 50 and Crosman 108 for comparison: interesting the 108 is shorter but feels more massive, they weight about the same.

[jirushi]

Its a .177 and shoots Hobbys at 875, so about 12 foot pound. No safety early model. It’s a very interesting gun in that it’s so unusual with the English straight stock and carbine length. It shoots very accurately but certainly has a springer jolt to it. I haven’t shot it very much and need to get back at it. It was a impulse buy at one of my first gun shows, it’s seemed way too cheap for a perfect example, knew I could sell it later for more if I didn’t like it. It’s one of Tom Gaylord’s favorite guns, he says this gun taught him the artillary hold.

I agree it’s probably best with open sights, the scope rail has no stops. The scope rail dead ends into the end cap which “supplies” shape edges to tear into your scope mounts as they want to move back. Probably could have worked something out but just went back to open sights which I think make sense with a carbine anyway.

Here it is with a Diana 50 and Crosman 108 for comparison: interesting the 108 is shorter but feels more massive, they weight about the same.

Very nice! That's a lovely trio!

[Binners]

Very nice! That's a lovely trio!

Not my thing, but I know Troubledshooter has a boxed minter of the rifle in the picture, all far too modern for me though....

[Drew451]

I must admit I've scanned the usual sales sites for a C1 more than once recently. Then onto carbine barreled Webleys...
Good thread.

[Troubledshooter]

Here are photographs of my boxed .177 C1, as good as the day it left the shop;