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    Quote Originally Posted by 223AI View Post
    HA that was more of a personal sercurity thing, but yes loving it!

    Most accurate rifle I've owned, first lot of load testing best group was around .25", 50 gr z max over exterminator. That was top powder weight I had loaded, gave 3350 fps. Not had a chance to do anything since but apparently it will push the 50's to 3600, will get around to stoking it up at some point but that load absolutely hammers foxes so I am in no rush, still playing with the 25-45 deer loads at the moment.
    Awesome. Sounds like a beast! Foxes didn't argue with my 223 using 53gr V-Max, either. Been gathering dust though, since I bought the 204. Not sure I want to sell it. May PX for a 6.5 at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger_shooter View Post
    Superb grouping. Really like the stock you have on the 204 now.
    Thanks. Cheek piece is a bit low, but solved it with some pipe lagging under the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    Awesome. Sounds like a beast! Foxes didn't argue with my 223 using 53gr V-Max, either. Been gathering dust though, since I bought the 204. Not sure I want to sell it. May PX for a 6.5 at some stage.
    6.5 is cracking calibre, you just have to decide which one!!
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223AI View Post
    6.5 is cracking calibre, you just have to decide which one!!
    Creedmore, I reckon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    Creedmore, I reckon!
    Yeah, either that or 6.5x55, out with the latter on the roe does tomorrow and the creedmoor at Bisley Sunday
    Last edited by 223AI; 14-12-2018 at 10:17 PM.
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    Going back to the 204R
    Most of the shops "when they have stock" its 32's and 40's, ok if you rifle likes either You can buy up to you limit, in my case this would be 200, now depending on your shooting its quite easy to end up in a situation where you are going through the bullets quicker than expected, you then go to the shop for some more, only to find out they have none left, and it can be months before they get some more stock, you quickly try other shops to find every one else is quickly buying up the remaining stock.
    With reloading you can buy as much as you want in componants so you have a reduced excuse for running out.

    Bc's of 204 bullets
    32's .210
    39's .287
    40's .275
    With the Sirra blitz kings in 39g your going to get the best long range performance, some say that it can out perform a 22-250 at distance ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    Going back to the 204R
    Most of the shops "when they have stock" its 32's and 40's, ok if you rifle likes either You can buy up to you limit, in my case this would be 200, now depending on your shooting its quite easy to end up in a situation where you are going through the bullets quicker than expected, you then go to the shop for some more, only to find out they have none left, and it can be months before they get some more stock, you quickly try other shops to find every one else is quickly buying up the remaining stock.
    With reloading you can buy as much as you want in componants so you have a reduced excuse for running out.

    Bc's of 204 bullets
    32's .210
    39's .287
    40's .275
    With the Sirra blitz kings in 39g your going to get the best long range performance, some say that it can out perform a 22-250 at distance ?

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    Inside of 300y a 204 using 39gr SBK’s outperforms pretty much everything on drop and wind drift.
    The toxicity of lead varies, depending upon the weight of its doseage and its velocity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlts View Post
    Inside of 300y a 204 using 39gr SBK’s outperforms pretty much everything on drop and wind drift.
    Doesn't beat 58gr v-max at 3875 from as .243 or 53 gr v-max from a 22-250 at 3850 according to my ballistic app! A whisker in it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 223AI View Post
    Doesn't beat 58gr v-max at 3875 from as .243 or 53 gr v-max from a 22-250 at 3850 according to my ballistic app! A whisker in it though.
    "A 53g v-max from a 22-250" There lies a problem that you mentioned earlier, ie correct twist rate, most 22-250's are 1 in 14, it is said that the 53g v-max in 22-250 requires a 1 in 12 twist rate ---------if Tikka's were 1 in 12 in 22-250 i might seriously consider getting one, but for the moment i'll stick with my 243 using the 58g v-max home loads, dont know what speed they are doing but there only 3% down on maximum powder weight on a 20" Tikka barrel.

    Point being there all good choices.

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    You can't knock the 204 with 39gr Blitz, chaps. Especially when it's clocking 3,740fps. Still well within book data, too. Not pushing it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlts View Post
    Inside of 300y a 204 using 39gr SBK’s outperforms pretty much everything on drop and wind drift.
    It's a beast

    Certainly good for varminting.

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    On my learning curve with fox shooting i started off with 223, what i found was that i was getting "runners" with 40g Nosler, and Hornady factory bullets, this was with some times perfect shot placement.
    In my case i found that 50g, 53g, and 55g was stopping them a lot better, now the lads that have heavily put the 39/40g 204r will know exactly how good or bad they are for runners -------but i dont know.

    I then moved up to a 243 using 58g bullets in the belief that this would stop them better at range if shot placement wasn't perfect -----and it does to a certain extent but the saying "Ive never had any runners with ANY calibre if you have shot enough just isnt true, the shot placement has to be reasonable and this isnt easy at times when on foot in field conditions at night, although the 1035 foxes ive shot in just under 5 years suggest im not too bad at it ?

    I personally like the flat fox shooting calibres 204r, 22-250, 243, it just makes point-n shoot in the dark so much easier, suppose with the 204, and 22-250 you are using a lot less powder for SIMILAR range, which can be a good thing.

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    I haven't shot that many foxes with the 204, Dave but it does drop them as well as my 223. I suppose if you shoot enough foxes your bound to get the odd runner, regardless of calibre.

    Can't get motivated for night time forays these days. Much prefer lazy summer days and early mornings. My 204 is more of a long range rabbit/corvid rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    On my learning curve with fox shooting i started off with 223, what i found was that i was getting "runners" with 40g Nosler, and Hornady factory bullets, this was with some times perfect shot placement.
    In my case i found that 50g, 53g, and 55g was stopping them a lot better, now the lads that have heavily put the 39/40g 204r will know exactly how good or bad they are for runners -------but i dont know.

    I then moved up to a 243 using 58g bullets in the belief that this would stop them better at range if shot placement wasn't perfect -----and it does to a certain extent but the saying "Ive never had any runners with ANY calibre if you have shot enough just isnt true, the shot placement has to be reasonable and this isnt easy at times when on foot in field conditions at night, although the 1035 foxes ive shot in just under 5 years suggest im not too bad at it ?

    I personally like the flat fox shooting calibres 204r, 22-250, 243, it just makes point-n shoot in the dark so much easier, suppose with the 204, and 22-250 you are using a lot less powder for SIMILAR range, which can be a good thing.

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    Firstly well done Elliot on the group, good shooting. I knew you would come to the dark side eventually and get a 204.

    Dave don't ask me why because the answer will simply be "i don't know", however i had far, far more runners with my .223 than the .204. Whether i used 40grn or 53grn it made no difference. After trying my current night vision equipped Supervarmint in 204 for about a fortnight i realised the 223 would remain in the cupboard, so i sold it and bought another Supervarmint for day use. I did briefly try my 243 at night but didn't like the fact that i lost sight picture due to recoil so gave up on it. I use 32grn bullets and rarely get a runner, certainly not if they have been hit in the engine room. They don't often leave any marks on the fox, you sometimes struggle to see an entry wound but on recovery of the carcass it sounds like a bag of jelly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    "A 53g v-max from a 22-250" There lies a problem that you mentioned earlier, ie correct twist rate, most 22-250's are 1 in 14, it is said that the 53g v-max in 22-250 requires a 1 in 12 twist rate ---------if Tikka's were 1 in 12 in 22-250 i might seriously consider getting one, but for the moment i'll stick with my 243 using the 58g v-max home loads, dont know what speed they are doing but there only 3% down on maximum powder weight on a 20" Tikka barrel.

    Point being there all good choices.

    Dave (warbucks)
    There are factory 1:12 22-250s out there though.
    Thanks for looking

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